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DRAFT MINUTES

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DRAFT MINUTES

Attendees


OrganizationName
Orange
Charter Communications
Telefonica
Vodafone
Vodafone
Ericsson
AT&T
DT


Agenda Proposal

  • Antitrust Policy
  • Approval of minutes of last conf. call
  • Recent Updates & Recap
  • Review of Action Points
  • Discussion
    • OGW Drop #3 APIs:  #375 (Device Quality Indicator)
    • OGW Drop #4 APIs #409 (Verified Caller)
    • Other APIs:  #351 (Proposal for Authorization for Advertisements, Advertisements Consent, and Measurement), #372 (Receive SMS),  #395 (Carrier Wholesale Pricing),  #395 (Steering of Roaming Information
  • )API Scope evolution: #402 #404 (QoD subgroup scope Change
    • ), #416 (Call Status), #412 (Device Data Volume)
    • Governance: #367 (Structures and roles, RACI, Maintainers initiative)
  • Closing Issues
       
      •   #336 (OGW Home Location Verification), #330  (Device Visit Location), #376 (Best Interconnection), #378 (Customer Premise Equipment Management), #383 (Capability and Runtime Restrictions), #402 #404 (QoD subgroup scope Change)
    • Action Points
    • AOB
    • Q&A

    Antitrust Policy

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    New Procedures in API Backlog WG meetings

    A number of improvements are under discussion with leadership team of OGW project (Henry), CAMARA Project (Markus), Product Definition WS (Helene) and TSC (Herbert). As of today, the WG adopted agreements are three:

    1. To close the agenda SEVEN DAYS BEFORE the conf. call.
      • In case a WG participant wants to include a point in the agenda (e.g., present a new API proposal), this participant shall ensure the corresponding issue is opened in Github by then.
      • Exceptional situations will be treated separately.
    2. New schedule of conf. calls **The meetings are to be held by Linux Foundation (Links available at GitHub and Confluence Backlog front pages)
      • 2nd Thursday of the month (10-11 CET)
      • 4th Thursday of the month (15-16 CET)
    3.  Send agenda to TSC mail list, to encourage more TSC member companies to join the call and provide comments when they identify APIs which are of interest for them. 

    Meeting Minutes within Wiki instead of Github

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    Approval of minutes of last conf. call

    • Minutes of last API backlog WG call available here
      • DECISION: Approved 

    Recent Updates & Recap

    TSC meeting 5th 18th April:

    • The API Backlog subgroup will have its own github repo. Initial Maintainers have been requested. Those of you that have been active within the last meetings have received an email requesting for comitment/refusal:
    • NameCompanyCommits?
      Ricardo SerranoTelefonicaYES/CO
      Eric MurrayVodafoneYES
      Pierre CloseATTNO
      Randy LevensalorCableLabs
      Chris AubutCharter CommunicationYES
      Noel WirziusDeutsche TelekomYES/CO
      Jan FrimanEricsson
      Mark CornallGSMAYES
      Zhang KaiHuawei
      Tanja De GrootNokia
      Ludovic RobertOrangeYES
      Nitin SoodSchabodi
      Jorge Garcia HospitalTelefonicaYES/CO
      Javier Villa LabarraTelefonicaNO
      Kevin SmithVodafone
    • There was no time to treat the API proposals. 
    • Only CPE management: Need to decide the name and transmit this to the TSC for the subproject to be created (offline) → The TSC is aware of the proposal: Home Devices - Network Access Management

    Other topics


    • The subgroups are being created: Network Access Management, Most Frequent Location, Device Visit Location (Location Insights family will have the same mail adress but separated repos)
    • In the sake of the health of the CAMARA group, so that the projects do not lose their activity as soon as they are born, it will be proposed that in order to approve new API proposals, these must be supported by at least 3 companies (MNO or suppliers indistinctly). An issue will be opened within governance encompassing this. TSC will take a decission next meeting


    Other topics

    • New API Backlog GitHub Repo have been created here. Ricardo → To migrate repos

    Codeowners:

    Anyone else commits to be codeowner?

    Backlog table

    Review of Action Points

    AP #

    AP Owner

    AP description

    Related issue

    Due date

    Status

    20230208-02

    WG delegates

    Delegates from interested parties to prepare a list of questions for this API, for Nick to answer them.

    351

    2024/02/21

    Open

    20230208-01

    Centilion

    To draft a simple figure illustrating the API logic with a high-level workflow, and attach it to the PR.  

    351

    2024/02/21

    Open


    20240314-01

    Governance

    Ricardo to share the RACI in the issue 367 comments, after making CAMARA specific document and validation by TSC

    367

    2024/03/14

    Open

    20240327
    20240411-01
    TelefonicaJorge to reopen the PR#337 and change the Proposal name (Most Frequent Location) and add the new supporters (TIM)336

     

    Closed20240327-02RicardoPropose to SMS (ShortMessageService) Subproject-owners integrating ReceiveSMS API proposal in the existing SMS (ShortMessageService) Subproject to create a new API family before moving to tsc372

     

    Done within Issue #9 · camaraproject/ShortMessageService
    Deustche TelekomNoel updating proposal with new fields. Start in parallel while device status API is split375

     

    Open
    20240411-02API Backlog GovernanceApprove ScopeEnhancementAPI proposal for QoD (PR#403)402 404

     

    Open. PR is approved. needs to be merged
    20240411-03Telefonica&DTModify the README for the QualityOnDemand subproject and include the new Scope enhancement402 404

     

    Open

    Discussion

    Current Issues 

    351CentillionNew Proposal for Authorization for Advertisements, Advertisements Consent, and Measurement
    The API template is available in PR#386.

    The issue was not treated in this conference call 

    • AP 20230208-01 still open.

    The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.


    DECISION: not treated

    367

    Governance

    Adapt Project StructuresAndRoles.MD to changes in API backlog table (reduction of comments)
    The aim is to update the governing document to reflect on the updated changes on API submission pipeline, according to the new structure of the API backlog table.

    The RACI was presented to the TSC and there was no objection anyhow explicit approval is not reflected in the TSC Minutes 21/03

    It is assumed RACI and so new WoW as approved

    This way of work have been firstly adopted by the QoD subgroup which is proposing a scope change in the Working Group issues (#404 and #403) which may be treated in the next conference call

    The API Backlog subgroup will have its own github repo. Initial Maintainers have been requested. Those of you that have been active within the last meeting have received an email requesting for commitment/refusal:

    Ricardo is currently working on modeling a new table

    The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

    372TotogiNew Proposal: Receive SMS
    The API template is available in PR#391


    The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

    DECISION: not treated

    375

    Deutsche Telekom

    New Proposal: Device Quality Indicator
    The API template is available in PR#380
    Input from OGW Drop 3

    Noel proposed Device Status subgroup to integrate their APIs within Noel's. Noel to make the proposal to the API Backlog and provide update


    The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

    ACTION:  AP: Noel updating proposal with new fields. Start in parallel while device status API is split

    395

    TelecomsXChange

    New Proposal: Carrier Wholesale Pricing
    The API template is available in PR#393

    First YAML avaliable here

    The issue was not treated in this conference call


    The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

    DECISION: not treated

    397

    Netfocusin Technologies

    New Proposal: Steering of Roaming Management
    The API template is available in PR#398


    Does not seem to be in the Scope of Camara. 

    DECISION: Discuss this in the next meeting (whenever Netfocusin Technologies is able to connect)

    402 404

    Telefonica&DT

    Scope Change: QoD API409 

    China Telecom

    New API proposal: Verified Caller 

    The API template is available in PR#403

     Noel: (mobileQoD to QoD change) Consider the combination or relationship between QoD and CPE/Home Devices subproject

    Eric: (provision) difficult to ensure a pfile characteristic (throughput, latency) for a long time. Let's discuss in the subgroup.

    Also, shall same mechanism apply to HomeQoD? to be brought tto Home QoD subgroup.

    DECISION: Both approvedPR#410

    Input from OGW Drop 4


    412

    Deutsche Telekom

    New API Proposal: Device Data Volume

    The Template was merged by mistake PR#411, The PR needs to be updated

    Closing Issues

    330China UnicomNew API proposal: Device Visit Location
    The API template is available in PR#329

    China Unicom and Telefonica to create a single family for both API: Location Insights, Use historical informations to manage location information of the user.

    LOCATION INSIGHTS FAMILY:

      • API de Device Visit Location (china unicom)
      • Most Frequent Location (telefonica & TIM)
    336TelefónicaNew API proposal: OGW Home Location Verification
    The API template is available in PR#337.
    Input from OGW Drop 3

    China Unicom and Telefonica to create a single family for both APIs: Location Insights, Use historical informations to manage location information of the user.

    TIM is supporting Home Location Verification but changing the name so to reach a wider scope. 

    LOCATION INSIGHTS FAMILY:

      • API de Device Visit Location (china unicom)
      • Most Frequent Location (telefonica & TIM)
    376

    Deutsche Telekom

    Best Interconnection
    The API template is available in PR#381
    Input from OGW Drop 3

    The issue was not treated in this conference call. Noel aplogized in advance and suggested to wait till April first week TSC meeting to move on with this API

    DECISION: Move to TSC

    378

    Charter Communications

    CPE management
    The API template is available in PR#379.       First YAML available here.

    CPE Management API proposal was approved by TSC.

    Ricardo has to provide the CODEOWNERS and initial MAINTAINERS to the TSC. This have been provided within Issue#378_comment

    HomeDevicesQoD owners queried to have this API in a separated github project despite having regular meetings to align common terms (API Family). This involves having more than one CODEOWNER for this API (no further problem)

    New github subproject to be created: Home Devices - Network Access Management 

    DECISION: GiutHub repo name approved

    383

    T-Mobile US

    Capability and Runtime Restrictions
    The API template is available in PR#384

    It was accepted by the TSC to treat this as a new API

    intitial YAML files to be included in the API TEMPLATE

    The issue was not treated in this conference call

    DECISION: GiutHub repo name approved

    383

    T-Mobile US

    Capability and Runtime Restrictions
    The API template is available in PR#384

    It was accepted by the TSC to treat this as a new API

    intitial YAML files to be included in the API TEMPLATE

    The issue was not treated in this conference call

    402 404

    Telefonica&DT

    Scope Change: QoD API

    The API template is available in PR#403

     Noel: (mobileQoD to QoD change) Consider the combination or relationship between QoD and CPE/Home Devices subproject

    Eric: (provision) difficult to ensure a pfile characteristic (throughput, latency) for a long time. Let's discuss in the subgroup.

    Also, shall same mechanism apply to HomeQoD? to be brought tto Home QoD subgroup.


    DECISION: Both approved

    New Issues





    Action Points

    AP #

    AP Owner

    AP description

    Related issue

    Due date

    Status

    20240411-01Deustche TelekomNoel updating proposal with new fields. Start in parallel while device status API is split375

     

    Open
    20240411-02API Backlog GovernanceApprove ScopeEnhancementAPI proposal for QoD (PR#403)402 404

     

    Open
    20240411-03Telefonica&DTModify the README for the QualityOnDemand subproject and include the new Scope enhancement402 404

     

    Open

    Decision Points

    DP #

    DP description

    Related issue

    20240411-01Scope Change: QoD API. Both issues are approved (merge the ScopeChange proposal)402 404
    20240327-04

    Discuss this in the next meeting (whenever Netfocusin Technologies is able to connect)

    397

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    AoB

    Next Backlog conf. call: 25th April9th May, 15-16 CET10-11 UTC+2.

    Next TSC conf. call: 18th April2nd May, 17-18 CET10-11,30 UTC+2

    Q&A

    How does CAMARA API pipeline work?

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