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DRAFT MINUTES

Attendees


OrganizationName
Orange
Charter CommunicationsChristopher Aubut 
Telefonica
VodafoneEric Murray 
EricssonJan Friman 
AT&TPierre Close 
DTNoel Wirzus
T-Mobile US
KDDIYasu Wakama 
Slagen
Nokia
China Telecom
ZTE
KPN
GSMAHelene Vigue
CentilionNick Venezia 


Agenda Proposal

  • Antitrust Policy
  • Approval of minutes of last conf. call
  • Recent Updates & Recap
  • Review of Action Points
  • Discussion
    • OGW Drop #3 APIs:  #19 (Device Quality Indicator)

    • OGW Drop #4 APIs:  #35 (5G New Calling), #34 (Shutdown Service Status), #41 (Telco Scoring)

    • Other APIs:  #17 (Consent and Measurement), #18 (Receive SMS),  #23 (Carrier Wholesale Pricing),  #24 (Steering of Roaming Information), #29 (Call Status), #28 (Device Data Volume)

    • Scope Enhancement: #45 (KYC-Match API - Scoring Logic), #48 (RegionUserCount)

    • Governance: #4 (Structures and roles, RACI, Maintainers initiative)

  • Clossing Issues
    • #20 (Best Interconnection), #22 (Capability and Runtime Restrictions), #2 (Tenure), #27 (Verified Caller)


  • Action Points
  • AOB
  • Q&A

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New Procedures in API Backlog WG meetings

A number of improvements are under discussion with leadership team of OGW project (Henry), CAMARA Project (Markus), Product Definition WS (Helene) and TSC (Herbert). As of today, the WG adopted agreements are three:

  1. To close the agenda SEVEN DAYS BEFORE the conf. call.
    • In case a WG participant wants to include a point in the agenda (e.g., present a new API proposal), this participant shall ensure the corresponding issue is opened in Github by then.
    • Exceptional situations will be treated separately.
  2. New schedule of conf. calls **The meetings are to be held by Linux Foundation (Links available at GitHub and Confluence Backlog front pages)
    • 2nd Thursday of the month (10-11 CET)
    • 4th Thursday of the month (15-16 CET)
  3.  Send agenda to TSC mail list, to encourage more TSC member companies to join the call and provide comments when they identify APIs which are of interest for them. 

Meeting Minutes within Wiki instead of Github

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Approval of minutes of last conf. call

  • Minutes of last API backlog WG call available here
    • DECISION: Approved

Recent Updates & Recap

TSC meeting 18th May:

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    • Keep PRs in the old repo and the new PRs will directly need to be opened in the new repo
    • Issues will be moved to the new repo

Backlog table

  • Table updated in PR#51 (merged)

Review of Action Points

AP #

AP Owner

AP description

Related issue

Due date

Status

20230208-02

WG delegates

Delegates from interested parties to prepare a list of questions for this API, for Nick to answer them.

351

2024/02/21

Open

20230208-01

Centilion

To draft a simple figure illustrating the API logic with a high-level workflow, and attach it to the PR.  

351

2024/02/21

Open


20240314-01

Governance

Ricardo to share the RACI in the issue 367 comments, after making CAMARA specific document and validation by TSC

367

2024/03/14

Open

20240411-01Deustche TelekomNoel updating proposal with new fields. Start in parallel while device status API is split375

 

Open
20240411-03Telefonica&DTModify the README for the QualityOnDemand subproject and include the new Scope enhancement402 404

 

Closed
20240425-02CentillinonNext API Backlog meeting, Nick to bring new use cases and endpoints351

 

Open

Discussion

Current Issues 

17 CentillionNew Proposal for Authorization for Advertisements, Advertisements Consent, and Measurement
The API template is available in PR#386.
  • AP 20230208-01 still open.

The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

Nick will be working within next weeks on providing what camara can work on within this API

ACTION: Next API Backlog, Nick will bring new use cases and endpoints

Not treated, to be handled in nex meeting (look at APs)Finishing documentation, Waiting for Real Time Bidding (RTB) standard to come up with the last versions so to provide further details


4

Governance

Adapt Project StructuresAndRoles.MD to changes in API backlog table (reduction of comments)
The aim is to update the governing document to reflect on the updated changes on API submission pipeline, according to the new structure of the API backlog table.

Ricardo is currently working on modeling a new table

New WoW 3 companies needed

Nick propose to focus more in the Commercial viability of the proposal in orther to rise up interest of other companies

Huub points out the sensibility of posting commercial strategies within this type of forums as many companies are potential competitors

The Strugling with the new Table model

The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

18TotogiNew Proposal: Receive SMS
The API template is available in PR#391

This issue was not treated in this conference call

The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

DECISION: not treated

to be treated in following session

19

Deutsche Telekom

New Proposal: Device Quality Indicator
The API template is available in PR#380
Input from OGW Drop 3

Noel proposed Device Status subgroup to integrate their APIs within Noel's. Noel to make the proposal to the API Backlog and provide update

Two proposals Isue 375 and 412 would be integrating within the Device Status subprojectsubproject The subgroup people is okay with this

The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

to be treated in following session

23

TelecomsXChange

New Proposal: Carrier Wholesale Pricing
The API template is available in DECISION: Move to TSC, check wether there is support for this API (Interested parties provide comments in the Issue) Both issue 19  and 28 to the DeviceStatus family and separate repositories (deviceStatus) →  Device Quality Indicator

23

TelecomsXChange

New Proposal: Carrier Wholesale Pricing
The API template is available in PR#393

First YAML avaliable here

The issue was not treated in this conference call


The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

DECISION: not treatedto be treated in following session

ACTION: Ricardo to reach up TelecomXchange to see if the could connect next meetings

24

Netfocusin Technologies

New Proposal: Steering of Roaming Management
The API template is available in PR#398


Does not seem to be in the Scope of Camara. 

DECISION: Discuss this in the next meeting (whenever Netfocusin Technologies is able to connect)

to be treated in following sessionThe issue was not treated in this conference call


The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

DECISION: not treated

ACTION: Ricardo to reach up Netfocusin Technologies to see if the could connect next meetings

28

Deutsche Telekom

New API Proposal: Device Data Volume

New template in PR#39

The Template was merged by mistake PR#411, The PR needs to be updated

The two APIs will be treated as new proposals that will be presented to the TSC when ready in BL

ACTION: Reopen the closed pull request or make a new one with the existing files → solved

To be treated in next sessionDECISION: Move to TSC, check wether there is support for this API (Interested parties provide comments in the Issue) Both issue 19  and 28 to the DeviceStatus family and separate repositories (deviceStatus) → Device Data Volume

29

Rogers

New API Proposal: Call Status

Nicholas to update template in PR, clarify in the issue whether this proposal come from GMSA and review existing API linked by noel in the issue

To be treated in next session

Issue is closed due to lack of activity → redacted

34

China Unicom

New API Proposal: Shutdown ServiceStatus

The API tempate is available in PR#32

Not treated

(relations with device status to be considered)


To be treated in next session

ACTION: Open an issue within DeviceStatus subproject to check overlaps.

35

China Mobile

5G New Calling

The API template is available PR#31

Not treated


To be treated in next session

41

Telefonica

New API Proposal: Telco Scoring

The API template is available #42

45

Telefonica

Scope Enhancement: KYC-Match API -Scoring logic 

The API template is available #46Input from OGW Drop 4

Presented slides: API-Overview-TelcoScore.pptx

Scoring is a simple algortithm/model but need to be aligned within all the operators 

Splicit consent is needed. 

How the model is going to be discussed? 

  1. Model introduced by a financial authority
  2. Federated model shared by all  telcos

Unified model for all the countries may lead into dificulties in order to fit the API within CAMARA Scope

ACTION: Toshi validate if This APImay fit within KYC API familiy

ACTION: Jorge Reach out to Nick by email

45

Telefonica

Scope Enhancement: KYC-Match API -Scoring logic 

The API template is available #46

This is just an enhancement of the current API. 

Looks fine as an Enhancement. SHould work without scoring due to limitation in some countries (not all responses include scoring, some cases does not make sense). 

Optional parameter in the output

ACTION: Toshi validate if This API may fit within KYC API participants

48

China Unicom

Scope Enhancement: Name change RegionUserCount

The API template is available #47


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20

Deutsche Telekom

Best Interconnection
The API template is available in PR#381
Input from OGW Drop 3

The issue was not treated in this conference call. Noel aplogized in advance and suggested to wait till April first week TSC meeting to move on with this API

DECISION: Move to TSCSeek for support

ACTION: See if there is any overlap within EdgeCloud

22

T-Mobile US

Capability and Runtime Restrictions
The API template is available in PR#384

It was accepted by the TSC to treat this as a new API

intitial YAML files to be included in the API TEMPLATE

The issue was not treated in this conference call

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Action Points

AP #

AP Owner

AP description

Related issue

Due date

Status

20240509-01VodafoneTo check with KDDI (KYC family owner) if this APi discussions can fit in the KYC meeting, due to the similarity in use cases.29/05/2024Open

Decision Points

DP #

DP description

Related issue

20240509-01

Verified Caller API move for approval, to be treated in following TSC

27

20240509-02

Tenure API move for approval, to be treated in following TSC

2


AoB

Next Backlog conf. call: 23th May, 15-16 UTC+2.

Next TSC conf. call: 16th May, 16-17,30 UTC+2

Q&A

How does CAMARA API pipeline work?

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