DRAFT MINUTES
Attendees
Organization | Name |
Orange | |
Charter Communications | |
CableLabs | |
Telefonica | |
Vodafone | |
Ericsson | |
AT&T | |
T-Mobile US | |
KDDI | Yusuke Nakano |
Slagen | |
Nokia | |
China Telecom | |
ZTE | |
KPN | |
GSMA | Reg Cox Mark Cornall |
Centilion | |
Chunghwa Telecom | |
Deutsche Telekom | |
MTN | |
China Mobile | |
Verizon |
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New Procedures in API Backlog WG meetings
A number of improvements are under discussion with leadership team of OGW project (Henry), CAMARA Project (Markus), Product Definition WS (Helene) and TSC (Herbert). As of today, the WG adopted agreements are three:
To close the agenda SEVEN DAYS BEFORE the conf. call.
In case a WG participant wants to include a point in the agenda (e.g., present a new API proposal), this participant shall ensure the corresponding issue is opened in Github by then.
Exceptional situations will be treated separately.
New schedule of conf. calls **The meetings are to be held by Linux Foundation (Links available at GitHub and Confluence Backlog front pages)
2nd Thursday of the month (10-11 CET)
4th Thursday of the month (15-16 CET)
Send agenda to TSC mail list, to encourage more TSC member companies to join the call and provide comments when they identify APIs which are of interest for them.
Meeting Minutes within Wiki instead of Github
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Approval of minutes of last conf. call
Minutes of last API backlog WG call available here
DECISION: Approved
Recent Updates & Recap
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Backlog table
Table updated in PR#79 (unmerged) New backlog table with reduction of columns → All reviews are welcomed
Discussion
Current Issues
Issue # | Company | Summary | Status Update |
Centillion | New Proposal for Authorization for Advertisements, Advertisements Consent, and Measurement | Published new standards, Next meeting (this time) Nick will bring all the documentation and present everything putted together The issue is not eligible to be closed yet. Pending to provide a concrete API description into the API proposal template MEETING UPDATE: Clarifying with interested parties whether this may be a possible API or a Framework etc. | |
Governance | Adapt Project StructuresAndRoles.MD to changes in API backlog table (reduction of comments) | PR is uploaded: New APIbacklog.md by TEF-RicardoSerr · Pull Request #80 · camaraproject/APIBacklog (github.com) PR to be checked and confirmed before issue can be closed MEETING UPDATE: Partners to review and validate | |
TelecomsXChange | New Proposal: Carrier Wholesale Pricing First YAML available here | The issue was not treated in this conference call The issue is not eligible to be closed yet. ACTION:Backlog Governance to reach up TelecomXchange to see if the could connect next meetings MEETING UPDATE: Not treated | |
Netfocusin Technologies | New Proposal: Steering of Roaming Management | Does not seem to be in the Scope of Camara. Not an east-west (not between telcos) Already included in 3GPP as technical viable (provided in comment) The issue is not eligible to be closed yet. ACTION: Check for support/commitment from the partners (technical implementation approach important) Meeting Update: Not treated | |
China Mobile | 5G New Calling The API template is available PR#31 | Telefonica and Vodafone willing to see the presentation to check whether there is support for this To be treated in next session (still pending for providing extra info) Pending to clarify scope with VerifedCaller MEETING UPDATE: Presentation of current proposal was shared in the meeting. Slides to be included in PR#31. G. Murat Karabulut asked about the proposal been part of WebRTC enhancement or new API → new API. Eric Murray asked about examples of 3rd parties in this API flow → app invoquing API to request or activate features, which can be enabled or not by the telco. Mark Cornall raised the existance of a 5G New Calling project in GSMA: https://www.gsma.com/get-involved/gsma-foundry/5g-new-calling/ & 5GNCTF Meeting#1 Operators open to comment/ask for clarification and support the API. | |
Verizon | Device Management The API template is available PR#30 | The issue was not treated in this conference call The issue is not eligible to be closed yet. Action to contact Verizon to ensure participation in next backlog meeting MEETING UPDATE: API proposal presented by Mahesh Chapalamadugu , clarified this proposal is targeted for IoT device management to activate/deactivate/manage the connection of those devices. Mahesh Chapalamadugu to upload current yaml for clarification in PR#30, and present again in next meeting. | |
Vodafone | Scope Enhancement for Network info The API template is available PR#72 | To clarify if new API is proposed in the Device Status Family or it's an enhancement over an existing API. To clarify its relationship with Open Gateway Telco Finder API → Kevin opened PR#72 to complement Issue PR#66. Both still open. Noel commented that this is likely to be accepted New repository is likely to be required Comments have been provided in the issue
MEETING UPDATE: Device status WG, as part of Device status reachability, considered this enhancement. Device Status Issue143 Enhancement proposal to be updated by Kevin Smith according to final scope agreed in Device Status group, TSC to be informed about final decision. | |
MTN | New API proposal - IMEI Fraud The API template is available PR#64 | This API was presented already and included in an existing group but no work was done so discontinued. Now Rebecca is presenting the proposal seeking for support DeviceCheck GSMA proposal overlaps this IMEI Fraud will offer more information to developers than GSMA Device Check service. MTN and other supporters should meet with GSMA to discuss if proceeding with this API within CAMARA still makes sense. Request for meeting already sent by GSMA to MTN Outcome of meeting awaited before deciding if this API proposal should proceed in CAMARA
MEETING UPDATE: Eric Murray : (IMEI status) service related, but GSMA is ok for this proposal. Waiting for MTN for moving on with this API. Maybe to be included in the Device Identifier family.
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Telefonica | New API proposal - Consent URL The API template is available PR#67 | The API proposal was presented, including additional slide info Discussion to follow offline in the issue/PR.
MEETING UPDATE: Huub Appelboom supports API proposal G. Murat Karabulut raised previously some concerns but seem clarified with last documentation. (uploaded in API PR#67 and also direct link) Proposal to be brought to TSC if no other concern is raised before end of week. | |
Deutsche Telekom | Best Interconnection | Seek for support ACTION: See if there is any overlap within EdgeCloud ACTION: Nick (centillion) to review with Noel (DT) about the match of use cases and consider support. DECISION API to be de-prioritised following de-prioritisation by OGW, but to remain in backlog. Issue to remain open. MEETING UPDATE:
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China Mobile | Model As A Service Family | China Mobile presented the API MEETING UPDATE: To include support from ZTE and Huawei. Proposals in good shape for been moved to TSC approval, Haojie Li asked for one additional round for more clarifications and comments. | |
China Mobile | Knowledge Base - Manage | MEETING UPDATE: | |
China Mobile | Q&A Assistant - Manage | MEETING UPDATE: | |
China Mobile | Q&A Assistant - Service | MEETING UPDATE: | |
China Mobile | IP High-throughput Elastic Network The API template is available in PR#90 | Not to be treated in this meeting. |
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Issue # | Company | Summary | Status Update |
T-Mobile US | Capability and Runtime Restrictions | It was accepted by the TSC to treat this as a new API Initial YAML files to be included in the API TEMPLATE MEETING UPDATE:
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Totogi | New Proposal: Receive SMS |
Seems to fit in the SMS as a new scope enhancement The issue is not eligible to be closed yet. ACTION: Ricardo to formally proceed with the scope enhancement os the SMS group MEETING UPDATE:
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Deutsche Telekom | New Proposal: Device Quality Indicator | Noel proposed Device Status subgroup to integrate their APIs within Noel's. Noel to make the proposal to the API Backlog and provide update Two proposals Issue 19 and 28 would be integrating within the Device Status subproject The subgroup people is okay with this The issue is not eligible to be closed yet. Move to TSC, check wether there is support for this API (Interested parties provide comments in the Issue, Vodafone committed and a third supporter is being queried) Both issue 19 and 28 to the DeviceStatus family and separate repositories (deviceStatus) → Device Quality Indicator DECISION formal agreement from the Device Status subgroup is required. To be treated in next meeting (Device Status) DECISION There is agreement Orange, DT and VDF, next backlog meeting there should be the outcome for this issue Pending to confirm codeowner/maintainers for repo creation, email sent
MEETING UPDATE:
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Deutsche Telekom | New API Proposal: Device Data Volume New template in PR#39 | Move to TSC, check wether there is support for this API (Interested parties provide comments in the Issue) Both issue 19 and 28 to the DeviceStatus family and separate repositories (deviceStatus) → Device Data Volume DECISION formal agreement from the Device Status subgroup is required. To be treated in next meeting (Device Status) DECISION There is agreement Vonage, DT and VDF, next backlog meeting there should be the outcome for this issue Pending to confirm codeowner/maintainers for repo creation, email sent MEETING UPDATE:
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China Unicom | New API Proposal: Shutdown ServiceStatus (SubscriptionStatus) The API template is available in PR#32 | DECISION Separate Repos should be created but same family (KYC) in order to have coordination meeting Pending to confirm codeowner/maintainers for repo creation, email sent Included in today's TSC approval. MEETING UPDATE:
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KDDI | Number Recycling The API template is available 55 | Pending Codeowners and maintainers (requested in comment) MEETING UPDATE:
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Cablelabs | New API proposal - Quality by Design The API template is available #71 | Proposal is that QbD be a scope enhancement to Connectivity Insights Will likely require new API, hence new repository required QdD supporters will attend Connectivity Insights meeting next week to finalise proposal Awaiting outcome of Connectivity Insights meeting before finalising if new repository required
DECISION :
MEETING UPDATE:
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Telefonica | New API Proposal: Telco Scoring The API template is available PR#42 Input from OGW Drop 4 | Presented slides: API-Overview-TelcoScore.pptx The API seems to not fit within KYC and new sg should be created. Support is required, feel free Scoring can be calculated both with any user registered in the telco. Less information means less scoring, Algorithm may be different for each of the implementators (MNO) ACTION: Toshi validate if This API may fit within KYC API family → The issue was raised but still under discussion →(Toshi's proposal 20240627) In API Backlog 20240613 meeting, Jorge TEF and Toshi KDDI agreed that the API does not fit within the existing KYC-SP. Then, in KYC-SP 20240625 meeting, that was shared within KYC-SP and there was no objection. Closed. Pending meeting with DT to seek for support. ACTION Noel to come back to TEF MEETING UPDATE: Telefonica manage to find the support of VDF (Kevin confirmed in the chat also) and DT if no objections. The name should be readressed, Jorge was prposing Telco Index to avoid using legal restrictions for using words "Credit" and "Scoring". Nick propose Telco Trust → Discussing this in the issue ofline. Tanja (note in chat on behalf of Release Mgmt): Reminder to not use Telco specific terms in API names. To avoid: Telco, operator, CSP, subscriber, customer, EMEI, UE, etc. MEETING UPDATE:
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Ericsson | New API proposal-Dedicated Networks The API template is available PR#59 | Thorsten presented the proposal: Material here  There have been a similar work in a TMF API. Pierre offered himself to Thorsten to reach up DECISION New repo/subproject to be created and a family that groups both NSB and DN ACTION Telefonica providing comments this afternoon and moving to TSC → Action complete Comments from TEF addressed in Issue PR#60 ACTION:Eric to check with Miranda in Issue PR#60 if her preference is for separate sub-projects, or for DN to join NSB sub-project No response regarding this, pending to response MEETING UPDATE: Discussion regarding separate or not separate repos. Telefonica supports having separate repos but having the conversation in the same forum as part of a unified family DECISION: Move to tsc taking care of this comment and expecting the administrative work to be clarified there. Someone for NSB group (Huawei, China etc.) should be connecting tsc that day at least to be aware of this ACTION: Thorsten to reach up NSB group by it mailing list proposing to join the TSC meeting. Next TSC meetings: 19/09/24 at 16:00 CEST / 14:00 UTC / 07:00 PST 03/10/24 at 10:00 CEST / 08:00 UTC / 01:00 PST MEETING UPDATE:
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Review of Action Points
AP # | AP Owner | AP description | Related issue | Status |
20240523-01 | API Backlog Governance | Backlog Governance to reach up TelecomXchange & Netfocusin to see if the could connect next meetings | Open | |
20240711-04 | MTN/Chenosis | IMEI Fraud: Check the material shared by Eric/GSMA regarding DeviceCheck, and validate the inclusion of the API in the Device Identifier group
Meeting Update: | Open | |
20240801-04 | Vodafone | Scope Enhancement for Network info: To clarify if new API is proposed in the Device Status Family or it's an enhancement over an existing API. To clarify it's relationship with Open Gateway Telco Finder API.
Meeting Update: Closed as per issue update | Closed | |
20240808-01 | Ericsson | Dedicated Networks: Eric to check with Miranda in Issue #60 if her preference is for separate sub-projects, or for DN to join NSB sub-project
Meeting Update: Closed as per issue update | Closed | |
20240822-01 | Telefonica | Consent URL API: Discussion to follow offline in the issue/PR around Consent URL API use cases/user stories
Meeting Update: Closed as per issue update | Closed | |
20240822-02 | Vodafone | Scope Enhancement for Network info: Kevin opened PR#72 to complement Issue 66. Both still open about destination of API
Meeting Update: Closed as per issue update | Closed | |
20240912-01 | Cablelabs | QualityByDesign:
| Open | |
20240926-01 | Telefonica | Telco Scoring
| Open | |
20240926-02 | Ericsson | Dedicated Networks
| Open | |
20240926-03 | China Mobile | 5G New Calling
| Open | |
20240926-04 | Verizon | Device Management
| Open | |
20240926-05 | Vodafone | Scope Enhancement for Network info
| Open |
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Proposal to extend meeting half hour (1:30 total) to accomodate all new APIs and also the track of existing.
@all to comment
Next Backlog conf. call: 10th October, 10-11 CET/UTC+2.
Next TSC conf. call: 3rd October, 10-11:30 CET/UTC+2
Q&A
How does CAMARA API pipeline work?
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