DRAFT MINUTES
Attendees
Organization | Name |
Orange | |
Charter Communications | |
CableLabs | |
Telefonica | |
Vodafone | |
Ericsson | |
AT&T | |
T-Mobile US | |
KDDI | |
Slagen | |
Nokia | |
China Telecom | |
ZTE | |
KPN | |
GSMA | |
Centilion | |
Chunghwa Telecom | |
Deutsche Telekom | |
MTN | |
China Mobile | |
Verizon | |
PlektonLabs |
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For clarity if any API is not a priority for OGW anymore at this point in time, we still expect they can progress independently in CAMARA.
(new) Sandbox proposal from TSC to speed-up the inclusion of new APIs into CAMARA, fostering the development of new APIs and the finalization of API scope definition.
https://github.com/camaraproject/Governance/pull/161
Meeting management
Participants are encouraged to get registered in LF page for Zoom meeting identification, both individuals and their affiliation.
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Github account can be used to facilitate registration and tracking
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Also required for CAMARA easyCLA process https://github.com/camaraproject/EasyCLA
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(new) Backlog table information review https://github.com/camaraproject/APIBacklog/issues/123
Problem description
Current supporters field in backlog table is intended to report original participants who pushed the API proposal template in its inclusion to backlog.
As per #118 , @StefanoFalsetto-CKHIOD proposed to include current supporters in the table.
To discuss in the modification of the Supporters field
Or to maintain current info, it is, original supporters of the API proposal
Or to include current supporters of the API under specification (similar to maintainers list in subgroups)
Meeting management
Participants are encouraged to get registered in CAMARA confluence to facilitate meeting management and comments/APs LF page for Zoom meeting identification, both individuals and their affiliation.
Github account can be used to facilitate registration and tracking
Also required for CAMARA easyCLA process https://github.com/camaraproject/EasyCLA
Participants are encouraged to get registered in CAMARA confluence to facilitate meeting management and comments/Action Points considerations.
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Issue # | Company | Summary | Status Update | ||||||
Centillion | New Proposal for Authorization for Advertisements, Advertisements Consent, and Measurement The API template is available in PR#73. | Published new standards, Next meeting (this time) Nick will bring all the documentation and present everything putted together The issue is not eligible to be closed yet. Pending to provide a concrete API description into the API proposal template Action: Clarifying with interested parties whether this may be a possible API or a Framework etc. AP: provide required information and examples MEETING UPDATE: Nick Venezia : Framework proposal including different APIs that may interact with existing ecosystem. Pending to provide info, work expected to be started in 1Q25 | |||||||
Governance | Adapt Project StructuresAndRoles.MD to changes in API backlog table (reduction of comments) The aim is to update the governing document to reflect on the updated changes on API submission pipeline, according to the new structure of the API backlog table. | PR is uploaded: New APIbacklog.md by TEF-RicardoSerr · Pull Request #80 · camaraproject/APIBacklog (github.com) PR to be checked and confirmed before issue can be closed Action: Partners to review and validate MEETING UPDATE: Close the issue as table already updated in:
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TelecomsXChange | New Proposal: Carrier Wholesale Pricing The API template is available in PR#77 First YAML available here | The issue was not treated in this conference call The issue is not eligible to be closed yet. ACTION: Backlog Governance to reach up TelecomXchange to see if the could connect next meetings MEETING UPDATE: Not treated | |||||||
Netfocusin Technologies | New Proposal: Steering of Roaming Management The API template is available in PR#78
| Does not seem to be in the Scope of Camara. Not an east-west (not between telcos) Already included in 3GPP as technical viable (provided in comment) The issue is not eligible to be closed yet. ACTION: Check for support/commitment from the partners (technical implementation approach important) Meeting Update: Not treated | |||||||
China Mobile | 5G New Calling The API template is available PR#31 | Telefonica and Vodafone willing to see the presentation to check whether there is support for this To be treated in next session (still pending for providing extra info) Presentation of current proposal was shared in the meeting. Slides to be included in PR#31. G. Murat Karabulut asked about the proposal been part of WebRTC enhancement or new API → new API. Eric Murray asked about examples of 3rd parties in this API flow → app invoquing API to request or activate features, which can be enabled or not by the telco. Mark Cornall raised the existance of a 5G New Calling project in GSMA: https://www.gsma.com/get-involved/gsma-foundry/5g-new-calling/ & 5GNCTF Meeting#1 ACTION: Operators open to comment/ask for clarification and support the API. Eric Murray asks for user stories that can explain the behaviour of the proposed API, as not clear how this interacts with the proper 5G New Calling standard and how it solves the features that are proposed. AP for Haojie Li MEETING UPDATE: https://github.com/camaraproject/WebRTC/issues/52 to discuss win in WebRTC about relationship new information to be uploaded and treated in next session MEETING UPDATE: | |||||||
Verizon | Device Management The API template is available PR#30 | The issue was not treated in this conference call The issue is not eligible to be closed yet. Action to contact Verizon to ensure participation in next backlog meeting API proposal presented by Mahesh Chapalamadugu , clarified this proposal is targeted for IoT device management to activate/deactivate/manage the connection of those devices. ACTION:Mahesh Chapalamadugu to upload current yaml for clarification in PR#30, and present again in next meeting. Mahesh Chapalamadugu AP to upload documentation MEETING UPDATE: Slides presented by Mahesh Chapalamadugu & @joshua Slide will be uploaded and reviewed offline before approval MEETING UPDATE: | |||||||
MTN | New API proposal - IMEI Fraud The API template is available PR#64 | This API was presented already and included in an existing group but no work was done so discontinued. Now Rebecca is presenting the proposal seeking for support DeviceCheck GSMA proposal overlaps this IMEI Fraud will offer more information to developers than GSMA Device Check service. MTN and other supporters should meet with GSMA to discuss if proceeding with this API within CAMARA still makes sense. Request for meeting already sent by GSMA to MTN Outcome of meeting awaited before deciding if this API proposal should proceed in CAMARA
Eric Murray : (IMEI status) service related, but GSMA is ok for this proposal. ACTION: Pending from MTN for moving on with this API. Maybe to be included in the Device Identifier family. @reg no further information from MTN, consider to de-prioritize, pending to further update Any other operator open to take the lead of this API is welcomed MEETING UPDATE: No update (pending) | |||||||
China Mobile | IP High-throughput Elastic Network The API template is available in PR#90 | Supporting document (presented) https://github.com/camaraproject/APIBacklog/raw/0a447dd4c53d0c675f8d72fc5622ff65eb48f7e3/documentation/SupportingDocuments/APIproposal_IP-high-throughput-elastic-network_ChinaMobile.pptx Jan Friman asked about the relation of this proposal with current CAMARA’s APis dedicated to network config (QoD, slice booking…). @qiuhai explained that this proposal is focused on enabling new network technologies like Srv6 Mark Cornall shared comments about the technology dependence on QoD solutions Kevin Smith & Jorge Garcia Hospital asked for more details on the difference with current proposals MEETING UPDATE: Pending review from Kevin about responses in the PR. Jorge Garcia Hospital raised concerns about technology dependancy in this API proposal | Telefonica | Line Eligibility for Carrier Billing APIthe technology dependence on QoD solutions Kevin Smith & Jorge Garcia Hospital asked for more details on the difference with current proposals Pending review from Kevin about responses in the PR. Jorge Garcia Hospital raised concerns about technology dependancy in this API proposal MEETING UPDATE: | |||||
Telefonica | Line Eligibility for Carrier Billing API The API template is available in PR#94 | MEETING UPDATE: No comments received, issue to be opened in carrier billing subgroups to confirm scope ehancement | |||||||
China Telecom | IoT SIM Status Mgmt API The API template is available in PR#105 | Relationship with device management proposal, to confirm relationship. AP: China Telecom MEETING UPDATE: | |||||||
China Telecom | IoT SIM Fraud Prevention API The API template is available in PR#103 | Jorge Garcia Hospital is it required to create a new set of APIs only for IoT devices or can they live in the existing groups? Eric Murray agrees, device status can take in charge of this new parameters, check first with this subgroup https://github.com/camaraproject/DeviceStatus AP: China Telecom MEETING UPDATE: | |||||||
China Telecom | IoT SMS send API The API template is available in PR#104 | Jorge Garcia Hospital Mahesh Chapalamadugu requires to validate this proposal with existing SMS Send API https://github.com/camaraproject/ShortMessageService AP: China Telecom MEETING UPDATE: | |||||||
Verizon | Support application resource requirements in application profiles | MEETING METING UPDATE: No comments received, issue to be opened in carrier billing subgroups to confirm scope ehancement | |||||||
China Telecom | IoT SIM Status Mgmt API115 | China Unicom | SIM Historical Information | MEETING METING UPDATE: Relationship with device management proposal, to confirm relationship. AP: China Telecom | China Telecom | ||||
IoT SIM Fraud Prevention API121 | China Unicom | User Account Spend Count The API template is available in PR#103 | MEETING UPDATE: Jorge Garcia Hospital is it required to create a new set of APIs only for IoT devices or can they live in the existing groups? Eric Murray agrees, device status can take in charge of this new parameters, check first with this subgroup https://github.com/camaraproject/DeviceStatus AP: China Telecom | China Telecom | IoT SMS send APIPR#120 | METING UPDATE: | |||
China Unicom | Number Of Cards Under User's ID | MEETING METING UPDATE: Jorge Garcia Hospital Mahesh Chapalamadugu requires to validate this proposal with existing SMS Send API https://github.com/camaraproject/ShortMessageService AP: China Telecom |
Closing Issues
Issue # | Company | Summary | Status Update | ||||
T-Mobile US | Capability and Runtime Restrictions The API template is available in PR#74 | It was accepted by the TSC to treat this as a new API Initial YAML files to be included in the API TEMPLATE
MEETING UPDATE: TSC Decision: Ask to G. Murat Karabulut to provide some examples where this API will be useful. To be revisited during the after-next TSC meeting . | |||||
Totogi | New Proposal: Receive SMS The API template is available in PR#75 |
Seems to fit in the SMS as a new scope enhancement The issue is not eligible to be closed yet. ACTION: Ricardo to formally proceed with the scope enhancement os the SMS group MEETING UPDATE:
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Telefonica | New API Proposal: Telco Scoring The API template is available PR#42 Input from OGW Drop 4 | Presented slides: API-Overview-TelcoScore.pptx The API seems to not fit within KYC and new sg should be created. Support is required, feel free Scoring can be calculated both with any user registered in the telco. Less information means less scoring, Algorithm may be different for each of the implementators (MNO) ACTION: Toshi validate if This API may fit within KYC API family → The issue was raised but still under discussion →(Toshi's proposal 20240627) In API Backlog 20240613 meeting, Jorge TEF and Toshi KDDI agreed that the API does not fit within the existing KYC-SP. Then, in KYC-SP 20240625 meeting, that was shared within KYC-SP and there was no objection. Closed. Pending meeting with DT to seek for support. ACTION Noel to come back to TEF Telefonica manage to find the support of VDF (Kevin confirmed in the chat also) and DT if no objections. The name should be readressed, Jorge was prposing Telco Index to avoid using legal restrictions for using words "Credit" and "Scoring". Nick propose Telco Trust → Discussing this in the issue ofline. Tanja (note in chat on behalf of Release Mgmt): Reminder to not use Telco specific terms in API names. To avoid: Telco, operator, CSP, subscriber, customer, EMEI, UE, etc. Pending:
MEETING UPDATE: Pending maintainers | |||||
Deutsche Telekom | Best Interconnection The API template is available in PR#88 Input from OGW Drop 3 | Seek for support ACTION: See if there is any overlap within EdgeCloud ACTION: Nick (centillion) to review with Noel (DT) about the match of use cases and consider support. DECISION API to be de-prioritised following de-prioritisation by OGW, but to remain in backlog. Issue to remain open. MEETING UPDATE: Not treated | |||||
Telefonica | New API proposal - Consent URL The API template is available PR#67 | The API proposal was presented, including additional slide info Discussion to follow offline in the issue/PR.
Huub Appelboom supports API proposal G. Murat Karabulut previously raised some concerns but seem clarified with last documentation. (uploaded in API PR#67 and also direct link) Pending: Proposal to be brought to TSC if no other concern is raised before end of week. MEETING UPDATE: under discussion in I&CM | |||||
China Mobile | Model As A Service Family The API template is available in PR#84 - MaaS (Model As A Service) Family | China Mobile presented the API ACTION: To include support from ZTE and Huawei. Proposals in good shape for been moved to TSC approval, Haojie Li asked for one additional round for more clarifications and comments. MEETING UPDATE: TSC approved, PR merged Pending group creation and maintainer assigning | |||||
China Mobile | Knowledge Base - Manage The API template is available in PR#84 - Knowledge Base - Manage |
As per 83
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China Mobile | Q&A Assistant - Manage The API template is available in PR#84 - Q&A Assistant - Manage |
As per 83 | |||||
China Mobile | Q&A Assistant - Service The API template is available in PR#84 - Q&A Assistant - Service |
As per 83 | |||||
Telefonica | Fixed Lines in Location The API template is available in PR#92 | METING UPDATE: Issue in location UPDATE: Issue open in location https://github.com/camaraproject/DeviceLocation/issues/271 |
Review of Action Points
AP # | AP Owner | AP description | Related issue | Status | ||||
20240523-01 | API Backlog Governance | Backlog Governance to reach up TelecomXchange & Netfocusin to see if the could connect next meetings | Open | |||||
20240711-04 | MTN/Chenosis | IMEI Fraud: Check the material shared by Eric/GSMA regarding DeviceCheck, and validate the inclusion of the API in the Device Identifier group
Meeting Update: Waiting for more updates, any other operator open to join | Open | |||||
20240912-01 | Cablelabs | QualityByDesign:
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20240926-01 | Telefonica | Telco Scoring
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20240926-03 | China Mobile | 5G New Calling
| Open | 20240926-04 | Verizon | Device Management
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Closed NEW 20241024-02 20241010-01 | China Mobile | IP High-throughput Elastic Network
Pending review from Kevin about responses in the PR. Jorge Garcia Hospital raised concerns about technology dependancy in this API proposal | Open | |||||
20241010-02 | ALL | IMEI Fraud
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20241024-01 | China Telecom | Clarifications required in IoT API Proposals | Open | |||||
20241024-02 | Verizon | Device Management
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20241024-03 | T-Mobile US | Capability and Runtime Restrictions Ask to G. Murat Karabulut to provide some examples where this API will be useful. To be revisited during the after-next TSC meeting . | Open |
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DP # | DP description | Status |
1 | Increase backlog meeting duration from 1 to 1:30:
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2 | Move meeting schedule to UTC:
Or align with TSC:
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AoB
Proposal to extend meeting half hour (1:30 total) to accomodate all new APIs and also the track of existing.
Agreed
Next Backlog conf. call: 24th October, 15-16 CET/UTC+2.
Next TSC conf. call: 17th October, 16-17:30 CET/UTC+2N/A
Q&A
How does CAMARA API pipeline work?
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