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DRAFT MINUTES

Attendees

 

Organization

Name

Orange

Charter Communications

CableLabs

Telefonica

Vodafone

Ericsson

AT&T

T-Mobile US

KDDI

Slagen

Nokia

China Telecom

ZTE

KPN

GSMA

Centilion

Chunghwa Telecom

Deutsche Telekom

MTN

China Mobile

Verizon

PlektonLabs

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  • Antitrust Policy

  • Approval of minutes of last conf. call

  • Recent Updates & Recap

  • Review of Action Points

  • Discussion

    • New APIs Proposals:  #35 (5G New Calling),  #50 (Device Management), #63 (IMEI Fraud), #17 (Consent and Measurement),  #23 (Carrier Wholesale Pricing),  #24 (Steering of Roaming Information), #95 (IoT SIM Status Mgmt API), #96 (IoT SIM Fraud Prevention API), #97 (IoT SMS send API), #115 (SIM Historical Information), #121 (User Account Spend Count), #122 (Number Of Cards Under User's ID), #126 (Facial Recognition), #127 (Network Health Assessment),

    • Out of Agenda: #128 (Network Traffic Analysis), #136 (eSIM Remote Management), #141 (Energy Footprint Notification), #143 (IoT Data Transfer Activation)

    • API Enhancements Proposals: #109 (Support application resource requirements in application profiles)

    • Governance: N/A

  • Closing Issues

    • #22 (Capability and Runtime Restrictions), #18 (Receive SMS),   #41 (Telco Scoring), #20 (Best Interconnection), #68 (Consent URL), #83 #85 #86 #87 (Model as a Service), #91 (Fixed lines in Device Location APIs), #93 (Line Eligibility for Carrier Billing API), #89 (IP High-throughput Elastic Network)

  • AoB

  • Q&A

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  1. To close the agenda SEVEN DAYS BEFORE the conf. call.

    • In case a WG participant wants to include a point in the agenda (e.g., present a new API proposal), this participant shall ensure the corresponding issue is opened in Github by then.

    • Exceptional situations will be treated separately.

  2. New schedule of conf. calls **The meetings are to be held by Linux Foundation (Links available at GitHub and Confluence Backlog front pages)

    • 2nd Thursday of the month (9-10:30 UTC)

    • 4th Thursday of the month (15-16:30 UTC)

  3.  Send agenda to TSC mail list, to encourage more TSC member companies to join the call and provide comments when they identify APIs which are of interest for them. 

  4. New API proposals are included in backlog table when template PR is created, linking to the pending PR

  5. PR will be merged as soon as ready for TSC, and should be merged before TSC review

  6. API enhancements requires existing group’s validation. TSC is informed accordingly to validate

  7. Link and status in backlog table will be updated accordingly

  8. Issue to track API onboarding will be opened once new API is confirmed in TSC.

Approval of minutes of last conf. call

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Issue #

Company

Summary

Status Update

17 

Centillion

New Proposal for Authorization for Advertisements, Advertisements Consent, and Measurement

The API template is available in PR#73.

Published new standards, Next meeting (this time) Nick will bring all the documentation and present everything putted together

The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

Pending to provide a concrete API description into the API proposal template

Action: Clarifying with interested parties whether this may be a possible API or a Framework etc.

AP: provide required information and examples

MEETING UPDATE:

No update

23

TelecomsXChange

New Proposal: Carrier Wholesale Pricing

The API template is available in PR#77

First YAML available here

The issue was not treated in this conference call

The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

ACTION: Backlog Governance to reach up TelecomXchange to see if the could connect next meetings

MEETING UPDATE:

No update

24

Netfocusin Technologies

New Proposal: Steering of Roaming Management

The API template is available in PR#78

 

Does not seem to be in the Scope of Camara. 

Not an east-west (not between telcos) Already included in 3GPP as technical viable (provided in comment)

The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

ACTION: Check for support/commitment from the partners (technical implementation approach important)

Meeting Update:

No update

35

China Mobile

5G New Calling

The API template is available PR#31

Telefonica and Vodafone willing to see the presentation to check whether there is support for this

To be treated in next session (still pending for providing extra info)

Presentation of current proposal was shared in the meeting. Slides to be included in  PR#31.

G. Murat Karabulut asked about the proposal been part of WebRTC enhancement or new API → new API.

Eric Murray asked about examples of 3rd parties in this API flow → app invoquing API to request or activate features, which can be enabled or not by the telco.

Mark Cornall raised the existance of a 5G New Calling project in GSMA: https://www.gsma.com/get-involved/gsma-foundry/5g-new-calling/ & 5GNCTF Meeting#1

ACTION: Operators open to comment/ask for clarification and support the API.

Eric Murray asks for user stories that can explain the behaviour of the proposed API, as not clear how this interacts with the proper 5G New Calling standard and how it solves the features that are proposed.

AP for Haojie Li

https://github.com/camaraproject/WebRTC/issues/52 to discuss in WebRTC about relationship

new information to be uploaded and treated in next session

Recommendation is that China Mobile join regular WebRTC call to discuss 5G New Calling proposal there.

MEETING UPDATE:

50

Verizon

Device Management

The API template is available PR#30

The issue was not treated in this conference call

The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

Action to contact Verizon to ensure participation in next backlog meeting

API proposal presented by Mahesh Chapalamadugu , clarified this proposal is targeted for IoT device management to activate/deactivate/manage the connection of those devices.

ACTION:Mahesh Chapalamadugu to upload current yaml for clarification in PR#30, and present again in next meeting.

Mahesh Chapalamadugu AP to upload documentation

Slides presented by Mahesh Chapalamadugu & @joshua

Slide will be uploaded and reviewed offline before approval

MEETING UPDATE:

No update

63

MTN

New API proposal - IMEI Fraud

The API template is available PR#64

This API was presented already and included in an existing group but no work was done so discontinued. Now Rebecca is presenting the proposal seeking for support

DeviceCheck GSMA proposal overlaps this

IMEI Fraud will offer more information to developers than GSMA Device Check service.

MTN and other supporters should meet with GSMA to discuss if proceeding with this API within CAMARA still makes sense.

Request for meeting already sent by GSMA to MTN

Outcome of meeting awaited before deciding if this API proposal should proceed in CAMARA

  • Pending to be confirmed by MTN, AP to be raised.

Eric Murray : (IMEI status) service related, but GSMA is ok for this proposal.

ACTION: Pending from MTN for moving on with this API. Maybe to be included in the Device Identifier family.

 @reg no further information from MTN, consider to de-prioritize, pending to further update

Any other operator open to take the lead of this API is welcomed

MEETING UPDATE:

No update (pending)

89

China Mobile

IP High-throughput Elastic Network 

The API template is available in PR#90

Supporting document (presented) https://github.com/camaraproject/APIBacklog/raw/0a447dd4c53d0c675f8d72fc5622ff65eb48f7e3/documentation/SupportingDocuments/APIproposal_IP-high-throughput-elastic-network_ChinaMobile.pptx

Jan Friman asked about the relation of this proposal with current CAMARA’s APis dedicated to network config (QoD, slice booking…). @qiuhai explained that this proposal is focused on enabling new network technologies like Srv6

Mark Cornall shared comments about the technology dependence on QoD solutions

Kevin Smith & Jorge Garcia Hospital asked for more details on the difference with current proposals

Pending review from Kevin about responses in the PR. Jorge Garcia Hospital raised concerns about technology dependancy in this API proposal

MEETING UPDATE:

Jianfeng Huang presented an update of the proposal. API will now be technology agnostic.

Mark Cornall agrees with proposed modifications

No other objections to modified proposal raised in the meeting

AP: China Mobile

  • China Mobile to update proposal in github with proposed modifications. Update should be to both PR#90 and Issue #90.

DECISION: If update is done by end Friday , proposal can be put to to TSC meeting on Thursday for final approval. Otherwise will need to be meeting.

95

China Telecom

IoT SIM Status Mgmt API

The API template is available in PR#105

Relationship with device management proposal, to confirm relationship.

AP: China Telecom

MEETING UPDATE:

Meeting considered that this proposal has some overlap with the Device Management proposal from Verizon

APs: China Telecom

  • China Telecom to discuss with Verizon (Mahesh Chapalamadugu) bringing this API into scope of Device Management API proposal. Discuss initially within Issue #50.

    • If scopes can be merged, Verizon can update PR#30 accordingly;

    • Otherwise propose to continue proposal as a new sub-project at next API Backlog meeting

96

China Telecom

IoT SIM Fraud Prevention API

The API template is available in PR#103

Jorge Garcia Hospital is it required to create a new set of APIs only for IoT devices or can they live in the existing groups?

Eric Murray agrees, device status can take in charge of this new parameters, check first with this subgroup https://github.com/camaraproject/DeviceStatus

MEETING UPDATE:

Meeting agreed with China Telecom that this proposal does not fit within Device Status sub-project

APs: China Telecom

  • China Telecom to discuss with Verizon (Mahesh Chapalamadugu) bringing this API into scope of Device Management API proposal. Discuss initially within Issue #50.

    • If scopes can be merged, Verizon can update PR#30 accordingly;

    • Otherwise propose to continue proposal as a new sub-project at next API Backlog meeting

97

China Telecom

IoT SMS send API

The API template is available in PR#104

Jorge Garcia Hospital Mahesh Chapalamadugu requires to validate this proposal with existing SMS Send API https://github.com/camaraproject/ShortMessageService

AP: China Telecom

MEETING UPDATE:

Proposal to be withdrawn

109

Verizon

Support application resource requirements in application profiles

The API template is available in PR#110

METING UPDATE:

No update

115

China Unicom

SIM Historical Information

The API template is available in PR#114

METING UPDATE:

Eric Murray comment: Sounds like a “historical SIM Swap” API. Discuss with SIM Swap sub-project.

APs: China Unicom

  • Upload presentation to github by adding as additional document to PR#114

  • Raise issue in SIM Swap sub-project proposing to bring new use case into SIM Swap. Refer to PR#114 in the new issue.

  • If SIM Swap sub-project agree that new API fits within the scope of that sub-project, then submit a sub-project scope modification request to API backlog, otherwise try to progress proposal as a new sub-project at next API Backlog meeting

121

China Unicom

User Account Spend Count

The API template is available in PR#120

METING UPDATE:

Use case appears to be a KYC use case

APs: China Unicom

  • Upload presentation to github by adding as additional document to PR#120

  • Raise issue within KYC sub-project proposing to bring new use case into KYC. Refer to PR#120 in the new issue.

  • If KYC sub-project agree that new API fits within the scope of that sub-project, then submit a sub-project scope modification request to API backlog, otherwise try to progress proposal as a new sub-project at next API Backlog meeting

122

China Unicom

Number Of Cards Under User's ID

The API template is available in PR#119

METING UPDATE:

Use case appears to be a KYC use case

APs: China Unicom

  • Upload presentation to github by adding as additional document to PR#119

  • Raise issue within KYC sub-project proposing to bring new use case into KYC. Refer to PR#119 in the new issue.

  • If KYC sub-project agree that new API fits within the scope of that sub-project, then submit a sub-project scope modification request to API backlog, otherwise try to progress proposal as a new sub-project at next API Backlog meeting

126

China Mobile

Facial Recognition

The API template is available in PR#130

EasyCLA to be solved

127

China Unicom

Network Health Assessment

The API template is available in PR#129

EasyCLA to be solved

128

China Unicom

Network Traffic Analysis

The API template is available in PR#129

EasyCLA to be solved

128

China UnicomNetworkT raffic

Network Traffic Analysis

The API template is available in PR#129

EasyCLA to be solved

128

China Unicom

Network Traffic Analysis

The API template is available in PR#129

EasyCLA to be solved

128

China Unicom

Network Traffic Analysis

The API template is available in PR#129

EasyCLA to be solved

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