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Attendees & Representation

NameCompanyAttendee
Eric MurrayVodafone (chair)

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Sachin KumarVodafoneX
Kevin SmithVodafoneX
Alex FerreiraPhronesisX
Matthew HornseyPhronesis
Matthew HandPhronesis
Sébastien SynoldIntersec
S, VigneshwaranCognizant
Karthik Raj RethinakumarCognizant
Manish JainCognizant
Huub AppelboomKPNX
Rafal ArtychDTX
Abhisek DasInfosys
Brian SmithShabodi
Umair Ali RashidShabodi
Foo Ming HuiSingtel
Vilim DuganicInfobipX
Surajj JaggernathVodacomX

Agenda

  • Review of previous meeting minutes
  • Discussion on requirements for IMEI Fraud
  • Review of Device Identifier API status
  • AOB

Discussion on IMEI Fraud API

  • See API Proposal submission here
  • Open Discussions:
    • #37: IMEI Fraud API Input
      • Proposal is just to use a single "IMEI" field, which would accept either IMEI or IMEISV
    • #34: What values should the IMEI Fraud API respond with to indicate reported ownership status?
      • The GSMA appear to have an existing Device Check service, which includes an API. How does the CAMARA proposal differ from this?

AGREEMENT: MTN / Huawei will join sub-project meetings from next year, so can then drive these discussion

Review of Device Identifier API status

  • Current "work in progress" version can be found here

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  • Open PRs:
    • PR #44: Create README.md

AGREEMENT: PR can be merged

  • New Issues
    • None
  • Open Issues:
    • Issue #40:  Proposed renaming of device identifier API
      • Using sub-project three letter code dvi as API name not scalable as additional APIs are added to the sub-project
      • Proposal is to use device-identifier as the new nameTo be agreed in meeting

AGREEMENT: basepath API name to be changed to device-identifier
ACTION: Eric to open PR

Huub: Suggests to rename YAML title to "CAMARA Mobile Device Identifier API"
ACTION: Eric to open issue to discuss API title

    • Issue #30: Defined scopes and meanings, being discussed in Issue 
      • Proposal is to have two scopes - one for all information, and one for TAC, Make and Model only
  • Brian: Should separate paths be defined rather than have a single path which accepts two scopes?
  • Please

ACTION: Eric to update issue with third option of separate endpoints for all information or only TAC / manufacturer / model information
ACTION: All, please comment if you have a view, whether from point of view of API consumer, provider or end user

    • Issue #21: API Definition Terminology
      • Issue is out of date
      • ACTION: Eric to update issue text (still open)
  • Open Discussions:
    • Discussion #35: Age of information or device connectivity status
      • Vodafone's implementation checks in "real time", so device must be connected and "age of information" would be 0
        • The current API design implicitly assumes these values
      • Other implementor's solutions may rely on cached data possibly be out of date, and hence require such a field

AGREEMENT: Adding an "ageOfInformation" field

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would be useful

ACTION: Eric to open issue to finalise agreement
ACTION: All, please continue to comment if you have a view, after which discussion will be closed

    • Discussion #36: Alternative device identifiers
      • An alternative proposal is to salt the IMEI with an API consumer specific salt and then hash it
      • This would a less useful identifier (only useful to the API consumer) but easier to justify providing under an opt-out or no consent basis
      • Use cases for such an alternative identifier are not clear
  • Please comment if you have a view

No time for full discussion 

ACTION: All to review current discussion and comment on value of salted / hashed IMEI for different use cases of interest to them

AOB

  • Additional sub-project codeowners required - any volunteers?
    • ACTION: Eric to open issue requesting new codeowners
  • Meeting scheduled for Friday December 29th will be cancelled. Next meeting to be held Friday 15th December 2023 12th January 2024 @ 09:00 GMT.
  • One day, meetings will be held using the LFX Zoom service, but not yet