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Attendees

 

Organization

Name

Orange

Charter Communications

Christopher Aubut

CableLabs

Ben Hepworth Justin Pace

Telefonica

Jorge Garcia Hospital

Vodafone

Eric Murray Kevin Smith

Ericsson

Jan Friman

AT&T

Pierre Close

T-Mobile US

G. Murat Karabulut

KDDI

Yusuke Nakano

Slagen

Nokia

China Telecom

@furong chen

ZTE

KPN

Huub Appelboom

GSMA

@reg cox

Centilion

Nick Venezia

Chunghwa Telecom

Deutsche Telekom

MTN

China Mobile

Ruobei Wang Xie Xin

Verizon

Mahesh Chapalamadugu Joshua Markham

PlektonLabs

Wahid Mohammad

 Agenda Proposal

  • Antitrust Policy

  • Approval of minutes of last conf. call

  • Recent Updates & Recap

  • Review of Action Points

  • Discussion

    • OGW APIs:  #35 (5G New Calling),  #50 (Device Management), #63 (IMEI Fraud), #91 (Fixed lines in Device Location APIs), #93 (Line Eligibility for Carrier Billing API),  #95 (IoT SIM Status Mgmt API), #96 (IoT SIM Fraud Prevention API), #97 (IoT SMS send API)

    • Other APIs:  #17 (Consent and Measurement),  #23 (Carrier Wholesale Pricing),  #24 (Steering of Roaming Information), #89 (IP High-throughput Elastic Network) 

    • Governance: #4 (Structures and roles, RACI, Maintainers initiative)

  • Closing Issues

    • #22 (Capability and Runtime Restrictions), #18 (Receive SMS),  #54 (Number Recycling), #70 (Quality by Design), #34 (Shutdown Service Status), #41 (Telco Scoring), #60 (Dedicated Networks), #66 (network Info), #20 (Best Interconnection), #68 (Consent URL), #83 #85 #86 #87 (Model as a Service)

  • AoB

  • Q&A

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  1. To close the agenda SEVEN DAYS BEFORE the conf. call.

    • In case a WG participant wants to include a point in the agenda (e.g., present a new API proposal), this participant shall ensure the corresponding issue is opened in Github by then.

    • Exceptional situations will be treated separately.

  2. New schedule of conf. calls **The meetings are to be held by Linux Foundation (Links available at GitHub and Confluence Backlog front pages)

    • 2nd Thursday of the month (10-11 CET9-10:30 UTC)

    • 4th Thursday of the month (15-16 CET:30 UTC)

  3.  Send agenda to TSC mail list, to encourage more TSC member companies to join the call and provide comments when they identify APIs which are of interest for them. 

Meeting Minutes within Wiki instead of Github

  • CAMARA community agreed that meeting minutes would only be recorded in the wiki

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  1. New API proposals are included in backlog table when template PR is created, linking to the pending PR

  2. PR will be merged as soon as ready for TSC, and should be merged before TSC review

  3. API enhancements requires existing group’s validation. TSC is informed accordingly to validate

  4. Link and status in backlog table will be updated accordingly

Approval of minutes of last conf. call

  • Minutes of last API backlog WG call available here

    • DECISION: ApproveApproved

Recent Updates & Recap

TSC meeting 03rd 17th October:

  • Repository for DedicatedNetwork CustomerInsights created (as decided last meeting), TelcoIndex naming still under discussion along supporters.was approved as “TelcoIndex” in TSC 2024-09-19)

  • New API proposals brought to TSC (23):

    • See informative message https://lists.camaraproject.org/g/tsc/message/230

    • Scope Enhancement for Network info:

      Supported by Vodafone and DT. Filled template: link

      Model As A Service Family:

      • Supported by China Mobile, ZTE, Huawei. Filled template(below). Original issue: 66.

      • Meant for including more information on current Device Status API, including Network Type (e.g.2/34G, 5GNSA/SA, non-3GPP..)

      • Decision: Not for decision, only informative as already agreed in both backlog and subproject. Already included into Device Status group scope, as agreed in issue 143 and PR 8.

    • Consent URL API:

      • Supported by Telefonica and KPN. Filled template: link. Original issue: 68. Additional material:

        View file
        nameOut_of_Band Consent Capture URLv2 (6).pptx
        link

      • Meant for providing an out-of-band consent gathering mechanism that can be triggered in a separated moment (apart from API authentication phase) and in an arbitrary device (not only the API-targeted device), enhancing current mechanisms tied to Authcode or CIBA token flows.

        • Discussed with ICM work Group in particular to define the relationship between this API & ICM

      • Decision: (not to be treated as no all the affected participants can attend today)

Other topics

  • GSMA informed CAMARA Backlog that Open Gateway is considering certain Drop2/3/4 APIs that have been stuck in Backlog, “at risk”, due to lack of support. What this means is that GSMA is pushing our MNOs to actively reconsider within the next 2 weeks if they can support them. By raising it in the Backlog meeting we increase the chance to find enough support to “reactivate” progress. 

    • Best Interconnect

For clarity if any API is not a priority for OGW anymore at this point in time, we still expect they can progress independently in CAMARA.

  • (new) Sandbox proposal from TSC to speed-up the inclusion of new APIs into CAMARA, fostering the development of new APIs and the finalization of API scope definition. 

https://github.com/camaraproject/Governance/pull/161

Backlog table

  • Table finally updated following last APIs:

  • New HTML format for API Backlog table

  • New format of columns to simplify and focus content on the interesting data:

    • API [family] name

    • API [family] Owner

    • API [family] proposal Registration date

    • Link to the filled-in template

    • Supporters in API Backlog Working Group

    • API backlog & TSC - Status

    • Sub Project Link & Active Maintainers

    • Latest Release & date

  • Updated links of API templates with new CAMARA structure (backlog as subproject)

  • Updated links of API repositories

  • New item for commonalities (including this way all the repos with a release)

  • Updated latest versions of released APIs, including label for meta-release

  • Updated item list:

    • New APIs approved

    • Pending APIs in backlog, as last items in the table. Will be re-ordered (API proposal date) when approved

    • New APIs, under review in backlog

Backlog procedure to update table from now on:

  • New API proposals are included in backlog table when template PR is created, linking to the pending PR

  • PR will be merged as soon as ready for TSC, and should be merged before TSC review

  • Link and status in backlog table will be updated accordingly

Discussion

Current Issues 

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Issue #

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Company

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Summary

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Status Update

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17 

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Centillion

New Proposal for Authorization for Advertisements, Advertisements Consent, and Measurement

The API template is available in PR#73.

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Published new standards, Next meeting (this time) Nick will bring all the documentation and present everything putted together

The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

Pending to provide a concrete API description into the API proposal template

Action: Clarifying with interested parties whether this may be a possible API or a Framework etc.

MEETING UPDATE:

Not treated

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4

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Governance

Adapt Project StructuresAndRoles.MD to changes in API backlog table (reduction of comments)

The aim is to update the governing document to reflect on the updated changes on API submission pipeline, according to the new structure of the API backlog table.

PR is uploaded: New APIbacklog.md by TEF-RicardoSerr · Pull Request #80 · camaraproject/APIBacklog (github.com)

PR to be checked and confirmed before issue can be closed

Action: Partners to review and validate

MEETING UPDATE:

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23

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TelecomsXChange

New Proposal: Carrier Wholesale Pricing

The API template is available in PR#77

First YAML available here

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The issue was not treated in this conference call

The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

ACTION: Backlog Governance to reach up TelecomXchange to see if the could connect next meetings

MEETING UPDATE:

Not treated

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24

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Netfocusin Technologies

New Proposal: Steering of Roaming Management

The API template is available in PR#78

 

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Does not seem to be in the Scope of Camara. 

Not an east-west (not between telcos) Already included in 3GPP as technical viable (provided in comment)

The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

ACTION: Check for support/commitment from the partners (technical implementation approach important)

Meeting Update:

Not treated

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35

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China Mobile

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5G New Calling

The API template is available PR#31

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Telefonica and Vodafone willing to see the presentation to check whether there is support for this

To be treated in next session (still pending for providing extra info)

Presentation of current proposal was shared in the meeting. Slides to be included in  PR#31.

G. Murat Karabulut asked about the proposal been part of WebRTC enhancement or new API → new API.

Eric Murray asked about examples of 3rd parties in this API flow → app invoquing API to request or activate features, which can be enabled or not by the telco.

Mark Cornall raised the existance of a 5G New Calling project in GSMA: https://www.gsma.com/get-involved/gsma-foundry/5g-new-calling/ & 5GNCTF Meeting#1

ACTION: Operators open to comment/ask for clarification and support the API.

MEETING UPDATE:

Eric Murray asks for user stories that can explain the behaviour of the proposed API, as not clear how this interacts with the proper 5G New Calling standard and how it solves the features that are proposed.

AP for Haojie Li

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50

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Verizon

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Device Management

The API template is available PR#30

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      • 83. Additional material:

        View file
        nameMaaS Introduction-ChinaMobile.pdf

      • Family proposal: New CAMARA Family to manage Model As a Service features. Includes different APIs that enable a end-to-end management of an AI model that can be exposed to third parties, with following functionalities:

        • Link1. Knowledge Base - Management (configure a user-specific knowledge base to support the construction of Q&A assistant)

        • Link2. Q&A Assistant - Management (configure specific LLM assistant with particular models)

        • Link3. Q&A Assistant - Service (usage of LLM, prompts and responses)

      • Decision: no comment - Reminder: This API will go in the sandbox. Approved !

    • Capability and Runtime Restrictions:

      • Proposed by TMUS. Filled template: link. Original issue: 22. Additional material:

        View file
        nameCapabilities_and_Runtime_Restrictions_Update.pptx

      • Not API proposal per-se, but a capability that could allow developers know which optional features are supported by the telco operator before an API is called (This is a complementary API). Proposal is to create a mechanism to report

      • Could be considered as a transversal feature for any API, as per original CAMARA Service Management API APIs.

      • Question from diego.gonzalezmartinez is this an API? Response: yes to request subscription in order to get notification.

        • For diego.gonzalezmartinez we should have small API and all the API implemented. Having same API with different level of implementation is an adoption issue. We can have exceptions.

        • Is it valuable for a developer to discover on the fly an API limitation? Diego is doubtful about the rationale.

        • Ludovic Robert and Mark Cornall echoed Diego perspective.

        • G. Murat Karabulut provides an illustration where depending on the (US) States the API may request distinct attributes list. Another example is documented for KYC Match in which idDocument is mandatory in some regions.

      • Shilpa Padgaonkar : let’s leverage the sandbox capabilities to let this API grow up. Sandbox gives a chance to develop API idea.

      • Jose Luis Urien Pinedo raises the point about the synchronization with the TMF operate API - The restrictions should be also defined in this flow.

      • Comment: Concern was expressed that such an API, even if developed as a sandbox, might give the wrong impression to external viewers of CAMARA was proceeding - in this case the concern that API providers will only implement a subset of an API’s functionality and use this API to advertise that once the API consumer has access. Some thought should be given as to how sandboxed APIs are to be “isolated” from incubated APIs to avoid giving this impression.

      • Decision: Ask to G. Murat Karabulut to provide some examples where this API will be useful. To be revisited during the after-next TSC meeting .

    • Consent URL API:

      • Supported by Telefonica and KPN. Filled template: link. Original issue: 68. Additional material:

        View file
        nameOut_of_Band Consent Capture URLv2 (6).pptx
        link

      • Meant for providing an out-of-band consent gathering mechanism that can be triggered in a separated moment (apart from API authentication phase) and in an arbitrary device (not only the API-targeted device), enhancing current mechanisms tied to Authcode or CIBA token flows.

      • Comment: The discussion within ICM #215 indicates there may be a lack of clarity as to which of CAMARA’s “guidelines” are normative and which are only informative and hence not mandatory. TSC may need to look at formalising rules on this regarding documentation language, layout and approval processes.

      • Decision: The discussion must continue in ICM first. No decision at this stage.

Other topics

  • GSMA informed CAMARA Backlog that Open Gateway is considering certain Drop2/3/4 APIs that have been stuck in Backlog, “at risk”, due to lack of support. What this means is that GSMA is pushing our MNOs to actively reconsider within the next 2 weeks if they can support them. By raising it in the Backlog meeting we increase the chance to find enough support to “reactivate” progress. 

    • Best Interconnect

For clarity if any API is not a priority for OGW anymore at this point in time, we still expect they can progress independently in CAMARA.

  • (new) Sandbox proposal from TSC to speed-up the inclusion of new APIs into CAMARA, fostering the development of new APIs and the finalization of API scope definition. 

https://github.com/camaraproject/Governance/pull/161

Backlog table

  • Table finally updated following last APIs:

  • New HTML format for API Backlog table

  • New format of columns to simplify and focus content on the interesting data:

    • API [family] name

    • API [family] Owner

    • API [family] proposal Registration date

    • Link to the filled-in template

    • Supporters in API Backlog Working Group

    • API backlog & TSC - Status

    • Sub Project Link & Active Maintainers

    • Latest Release & date

  • Updated links of API templates with new CAMARA structure (backlog as subproject)

  • Updated links of API repositories

  • New item for commonalities (including this way all the repos with a release)

  • Updated latest versions of released APIs, including label for meta-release

  • Updated item list:

    • New APIs approved

    • Pending APIs in backlog, as last items in the table. Will be re-ordered (API proposal date) when approved

    • New APIs, under review in backlog

Backlog procedure to update table from now on:

  • New API proposals are included in backlog table when template PR is created, linking to the pending PR

  • PR will be merged as soon as ready for TSC, and should be merged before TSC review

  • API enhancements requires existing group’s validation. TSC is informed accordingly to validate

  • Link and status in backlog table will be updated accordingly

Discussion

Current Issues 

Issue #

Company

Summary

Status Update

22

T-Mobile US

Capability and Runtime Restrictions

The API template is available in PR#74

It was accepted by the TSC to treat this as a new API

Initial YAML files to be included in the API TEMPLATE

MEETING UPDATE:

  • Clarifications will be provided by Murat.

    • Intended to cover these slides but time ran out:

      View file
      nameCapabilities_and_Runtime_Restrictions_Update.pptx
      and request ‘sandbox creation’. Will update the Issue #22 accordingly.

  • To be reviewed in TSC on 17th

18

Totogi

New Proposal: Receive SMS

The API template is available in PR#75

Seems to fit in the SMS as a new scope enhancement 

The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

ACTION: Ricardo to formally proceed with the scope enhancement os the SMS group

MEETING UPDATE:

  • Reminder sent

34

China Unicom

New API Proposal: Shutdown ServiceStatus (SubscriptionStatus)

The API template is available in PR#32

DECISION  Separate Repos should be created but same family (KYC) in order to have coordination meeting

Pending to confirm codeowner/maintainers for repo creation, email sent

Included in today's TSC approval.

  • Issue #34 can be closed and PR #32 merged

ACTION Pending to validate remaining codeOwner

MEETING UPDATE:

54

KDDI

Number Recycling

The API template is available 55

NumberRecycling

Pending Codeowners and maintainers (requested in comment)

MEETING UPDATE:

Group created and participants included, issue to be deleted. → PR merged

70

Cablelabs

New API proposal - Quality by Design

The API template is available #71

Slides available here: here
YAML available here: here

Proposal is that QbD be a scope enhancement to Connectivity Insights

Will likely require new API, hence new repository required

QdD supporters will attend Connectivity Insights meeting next week to finalise proposal

Awaiting outcome of Connectivity Insights meeting before finalising if new repository required

 

  • New repo to be created (new separated API) but included into the existing Connectivity insights family. To be confirmed base on the last meeting minutes. As soon as clarified, it will be included in next TSC

DECISION :

  1.  Herbert Damker creates the repo QualityByDesign 

  2.  Ben Hepworth provides user story/ies, → AP

  3. (Project team) Discuss the concept & propose rename → AP

  4.  (TSC) Adjust the name

MEETING UPDATE:

Group created and participants included, issue to be deleted. → PR to be merged

41

Telefonica

New API Proposal: Telco Scoring

The API template is available PR#42

Input from OGW Drop 4

Presented slides: API-Overview-TelcoScore.pptx

The API seems to not fit within KYC and new sg should be created. Support is required, feel free

Scoring can be calculated both with any user registered in the telco. Less information means less scoring, Algorithm may be different for each of the implementators (MNO)

ACTION: Toshi validate if This API may fit within KYC API family → The issue was raised but still under discussion 

→(Toshi's proposal 20240627) In API Backlog 20240613 meeting, Jorge TEF and Toshi KDDI agreed that the API does not fit within the existing KYC-SP.  Then, in KYC-SP 20240625 meeting, that was shared within KYC-SP and there was no objection.  Closed.

Pending meeting with DT to seek for support.

ACTION Noel to come back to TEF

Telefonica manage to find the support of VDF (Kevin confirmed in the chat also) and DT if no objections. The name should be readressed, Jorge was prposing Telco Index to avoid using legal restrictions for using words "Credit" and "Scoring".

Nick propose Telco Trust → Discussing this in the issue ofline.

Tanja (note in chat on behalf of Release Mgmt): Reminder to not use Telco specific terms in API names. To avoid: Telco, operator, CSP, subscriber, customer, EMEI, UE, etc.  

Pending:

  • API approved, repo will be created after final name is proposed by the group (email sent)

  • Pending to confirm codeowner/maintainers for repo creation, email sent and issue in discussion

MEETING UPDATE:

Pending to merge PR

60

Ericsson

New API proposal-Dedicated Networks

The API template is available PR#59

Thorsten presented the proposal: Material here

Image Removed

There have been a similar work in a TMF API. Pierre offered himself to Thorsten to reach up

DECISION New repo/subproject to be created and a family that groups both NSB and DN

ACTION Telefonica providing comments this afternoon and moving to TSC → Action complete

Comments from TEF addressed in Issue PR#60

ACTION: Eric to check with Miranda in Issue PR#60 if her preference is for separate sub-projects, or for DN to join NSB sub-project

No response regarding this, pending to response

MEETING UPDATE:

Discussion regarding separate or not separate repos.

Telefonica supports having separate repos but having the conversation in the same forum as part of a unified family

DECISION: Move to tsc taking care of this comment and expecting the administrative work to be clarified there. Someone for NSB group (Huawei, China etc.) should be connecting tsc that day at least to be aware of this

ACTION: Thorsten to reach up NSB group by it mailing list proposing to join the TSC meeting. Next TSC meetings: 

19/09/24 at 16:00 CEST / 14:00 UTC / 07:00 PST

Meeting Registration / Join

03/10/24 at 10:00 CEST / 08:00 UTC / 01:00 PST

Meeting Registration / Join

Pending: Codeowners and Maintainers to be included

MEETING UPDATE:

Group created and participants included, issue to be deleted. → PR to be merged

61 

66

Vodafone

Scope Enhancement for Network info

The API template is available PR#72

To clarify if new API is proposed  in the Device Status Family or it's an enhancement over an existing API.

To clarify its relationship with Open Gateway Telco Finder API → 

Kevin opened PR#72 to complement Issue PR#66. Both still open.

Noel commented that this is likely to be accepted

New repository is likely to be required

Comments have been provided in the issue

  • Device Status group to confirm, TSC will review the match or alignment with Telco finder (GSMA)

 Device status WG, as part of Device status reachability, considered this enhancement. Device Status Issue143

Pending: Enhancement proposal to be updated by Kevin Smith according to final scope agreed in Device Status group, TSC to be informed about final decision.

MEETING UPDATE:

As all solved, issue to be deleted → PR to be merged

20

Deutsche Telekom

Best Interconnection

The API template is available in PR#88

Input from OGW Drop 3

Seek for support

ACTION: See if there is any overlap within EdgeCloud

ACTION: Nick (centillion) to review with Noel (DT) about the match of use cases and consider support.

DECISION API to be de-prioritised following de-prioritisation by OGW, but to remain in backlog. Issue to remain open.

MEETING UPDATE:

 Not treated

68

Telefonica

New API proposal - Consent URL

The API template is available PR#67

The API proposal was presented, including additional slide info 

Discussion to follow offline in the issue/PR.

To hold a separated ad-hoc

METING UPDATE:

METING UPDATE:

METING UPDATE:

Issue #

Company

Summary

Status Update

17 

Centillion

New Proposal for Authorization for Advertisements, Advertisements Consent, and Measurement

The API template is available in PR#73.

Published new standards, Next meeting (this time) Nick will bring all the documentation and present everything putted together

The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

Action to contact Verizon to ensure participation in next backlog meeting

API proposal presented by Mahesh Chapalamadugu , clarified this proposal is targeted for IoT device management to activate/deactivate/manage the connection of those devices.

ACTION:Mahesh Chapalamadugu to upload current yaml for clarification in PR#30, and present again in next meeting.

MEETING UPDATE:

Mahesh Chapalamadugu AP to upload documentation

63

MTN

New API proposal - IMEI Fraud

The API template is available PR#64

This API was presented already and included in an existing group but no work was done so discontinued. Now Rebecca is presenting the proposal seeking for support

DeviceCheck GSMA proposal overlaps this

IMEI Fraud will offer more information to developers than GSMA Device Check service.

MTN and other supporters should meet with GSMA to discuss if proceeding with this API within CAMARA still makes sense.

Request for meeting already sent by GSMA to MTN

Outcome of meeting awaited before deciding if this API proposal should proceed in CAMARA

  • Pending to be confirmed by MTN, AP to be raised.

Eric Murray : (IMEI status) service related, but GSMA is ok for this proposal.

ACTION: Pending from MTN for moving on with this API. Maybe to be included in the Device Identifier family.

MEETING UPDATE:

 @reg no further information from MTN, consider to de-prioritize, pending to further update

Any other operator open to take the lead of this API is welcomed

89

China Mobile

IP High-throughput Elastic Network 

The API template is available in PR#90

Supporting document (presented) https://github.com/camaraproject/APIBacklog/raw/0a447dd4c53d0c675f8d72fc5622ff65eb48f7e3/documentation/SupportingDocuments/APIproposal_IP-high-throughput-elastic-network_ChinaMobile.pptx

METING UPDATE:

Jan Friman asked about the relation of this proposal with current CAMARA’s APis dedicated to network config (QoD, slice booking…). @qiuhai explained that this proposal is focused on enabling new network technologies like Srv6

Mark Cornall shared comments about the technology dependence on QoD solutions

Kevin Smith & Jorge Garcia Hospital asked for more details on the difference with current proposals

93

Telefonica

Line Eligibility for Carrier Billing API

The API template is available in PR#94

METING UPDATE:

not treated

95

China Telecom

IoT SIM Status Mgmt API

The API template is available in PR#105

96

China Telecom

IoT SIM Fraud Prevention API

The API template is available in PR#103

97

China Telecom

IoT SMS send API

The API template is available in PR#104

Closing Issues

Pending to provide a concrete API description into the API proposal template

Action: Clarifying with interested parties whether this may be a possible API or a Framework etc.

AP: provide required information and examples

MEETING UPDATE:

Nick Venezia : Framework proposal including different APIs that may interact with existing ecosystem. Pending to provide info, work expected to be started in 1Q25

4

Governance

Adapt Project StructuresAndRoles.MD to changes in API backlog table (reduction of comments)

The aim is to update the governing document to reflect on the updated changes on API submission pipeline, according to the new structure of the API backlog table.

PR is uploaded: New APIbacklog.md by TEF-RicardoSerr · Pull Request #80 · camaraproject/APIBacklog (github.com)

PR to be checked and confirmed before issue can be closed

Action: Partners to review and validate

MEETING UPDATE:

Close the issue as table already updated in:

Github file macro
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urlhttps://github.com/camaraproject/APIBacklog/blob/main/documentation/APIbacklog.md

23

TelecomsXChange

New Proposal: Carrier Wholesale Pricing

The API template is available in PR#77

First YAML available here

The issue was not treated in this conference call

The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

ACTION: Backlog Governance to reach up TelecomXchange to see if the could connect next meetings

MEETING UPDATE:

Not treated

24

Netfocusin Technologies

New Proposal: Steering of Roaming Management

The API template is available in PR#78

 

Does not seem to be in the Scope of Camara. 

Not an east-west (not between telcos) Already included in 3GPP as technical viable (provided in comment)

The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

ACTION: Check for support/commitment from the partners (technical implementation approach important)

Meeting Update:

Not treated

35

China Mobile

5G New Calling

The API template is available PR#31

Telefonica and Vodafone willing to see the presentation to check whether there is support for this

To be treated in next session (still pending for providing extra info)

Presentation of current proposal was shared in the meeting. Slides to be included in  PR#31.

G. Murat Karabulut asked about the proposal been part of WebRTC enhancement or new API → new API.

Eric Murray asked about examples of 3rd parties in this API flow → app invoquing API to request or activate features, which can be enabled or not by the telco.

Mark Cornall raised the existance of a 5G New Calling project in GSMA: https://www.gsma.com/get-involved/gsma-foundry/5g-new-calling/ & 5GNCTF Meeting#1

ACTION: Operators open to comment/ask for clarification and support the API.

Eric Murray asks for user stories that can explain the behaviour of the proposed API, as not clear how this interacts with the proper 5G New Calling standard and how it solves the features that are proposed.

AP for Haojie Li

MEETING UPDATE:

https://github.com/camaraproject/WebRTC/issues/52 to discuss win WebRTC about relationship

new information to be uploaded and treated in next session

50

Verizon

Device Management

The API template is available PR#30

The issue was not treated in this conference call

The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

Action to contact Verizon to ensure participation in next backlog meeting

API proposal presented by Mahesh Chapalamadugu , clarified this proposal is targeted for IoT device management to activate/deactivate/manage the connection of those devices.

ACTION:Mahesh Chapalamadugu to upload current yaml for clarification in PR#30, and present again in next meeting.

Mahesh Chapalamadugu AP to upload documentation

MEETING UPDATE:

Slides presented by Mahesh Chapalamadugu & @joshua

Slide will be uploaded and reviewed offline before approval

63

MTN

New API proposal - IMEI Fraud

The API template is available PR#64

This API was presented already and included in an existing group but no work was done so discontinued. Now Rebecca is presenting the proposal seeking for support

DeviceCheck GSMA proposal overlaps this

IMEI Fraud will offer more information to developers than GSMA Device Check service.

MTN and other supporters should meet with GSMA to discuss if proceeding with this API within CAMARA still makes sense.

Request for meeting already sent by GSMA to MTN

Outcome of meeting awaited before deciding if this API proposal should proceed in CAMARA

  • Pending to be confirmed by MTN, AP to be raised.

Eric Murray : (IMEI status) service related, but GSMA is ok for this proposal.

ACTION: Pending from MTN for moving on with this API. Maybe to be included in the Device Identifier family.

 @reg no further information from MTN, consider to de-prioritize, pending to further update

Any other operator open to take the lead of this API is welcomed

MEETING UPDATE:

No update (pending)

89

China Mobile

IP High-throughput Elastic Network 

The API template is available in PR#90

Supporting document (presented) https://github.com/camaraproject/APIBacklog/raw/0a447dd4c53d0c675f8d72fc5622ff65eb48f7e3/documentation/SupportingDocuments/APIproposal_IP-high-throughput-elastic-network_ChinaMobile.pptx

Jan Friman asked about the relation of this proposal with current CAMARA’s APis dedicated to network config (QoD, slice booking…). @qiuhai explained that this proposal is focused on enabling new network technologies like Srv6

Mark Cornall shared comments about the technology dependence on QoD solutions

Kevin Smith & Jorge Garcia Hospital asked for more details on the difference with current proposals

MEETING UPDATE:

Pending review from Kevin about responses in the PR. Jorge Garcia Hospital raised concerns about technology dependancy in this API proposal

93

Telefonica

Line Eligibility for Carrier Billing API

The API template is available in PR#94

MEETING UPDATE:

No comments received, issue to be opened in carrier billing subgroups to confirm scope ehancement

95

China Telecom

IoT SIM Status Mgmt API

The API template is available in PR#105

MEETING UPDATE:

Relationship with device management proposal, to confirm relationship.

AP: China Telecom

96

China Telecom

IoT SIM Fraud Prevention API

The API template is available in PR#103

MEETING UPDATE:

Jorge Garcia Hospital is it required to create a new set of APIs only for IoT devices or can they live in the existing groups?

Eric Murray agrees, device status can take in charge of this new parameters, check first with this subgroup https://github.com/camaraproject/DeviceStatus

AP: China Telecom

97

China Telecom

IoT SMS send API

The API template is available in PR#104

MEETING UPDATE:

Jorge Garcia Hospital Mahesh Chapalamadugu requires to validate this proposal with existing SMS Send API https://github.com/camaraproject/ShortMessageService

AP: China Telecom

Closing Issues

Issue #

Company

Summary

Status Update

22

T-Mobile US

Capability and Runtime Restrictions

The API template is available in PR#74

It was accepted by the TSC to treat this as a new API

Initial YAML files to be included in the API TEMPLATE

  • Clarifications will be provided by Murat.

    • Intended to cover these slides but time ran out:

      View file
      nameCapabilities_and_Runtime_Restrictions_Update.pptx
      and request ‘sandbox creation’. Will update the Issue #22 accordingly.

  • To be reviewed in TSC on 17th

MEETING UPDATE:

TSC Decision: Ask to G. Murat Karabulut to provide some examples where this API will be useful. To be revisited during the after-next TSC meeting .

18

Totogi

New Proposal: Receive SMS

The API template is available in PR#75

Seems to fit in the SMS as a new scope enhancement 

The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

ACTION: Ricardo to formally proceed with the scope enhancement os the SMS group

MEETING UPDATE:

  • Reminder sent

41

Telefonica

New API Proposal: Telco Scoring

The API template is available PR#42

Input from OGW Drop 4

Presented slides: API-Overview-TelcoScore.pptx

The API seems to not fit within KYC and new sg should be created. Support is required, feel free

Scoring can be calculated both with any user registered in the telco. Less information means less scoring, Algorithm may be different for each of the implementators (MNO)

ACTION: Toshi validate if This API may fit within KYC API family → The issue was raised but still under discussion 

→(Toshi's proposal 20240627) In API Backlog 20240613 meeting, Jorge TEF and Toshi KDDI agreed that the API does not fit within the existing KYC-SP.  Then, in KYC-SP 20240625 meeting, that was shared within KYC-SP and there was no objection.  Closed.

Pending meeting with DT to seek for support.

ACTION Noel to come back to TEF

Telefonica manage to find the support of VDF (Kevin confirmed in the chat also) and DT if no objections. The name should be readressed, Jorge was prposing Telco Index to avoid using legal restrictions for using words "Credit" and "Scoring".

Nick propose Telco Trust → Discussing this in the issue ofline.

Tanja (note in chat on behalf of Release Mgmt): Reminder to not use Telco specific terms in API names. To avoid: Telco, operator, CSP, subscriber, customer, EMEI, UE, etc.  

Pending:

  • Group created, pending to include maintainers/codeowners

MEETING UPDATE:

Pending maintainers

20

Deutsche Telekom

Best Interconnection

The API template is available in PR#88

Input from OGW Drop 3

Seek for support

ACTION: See if there is any overlap within EdgeCloud

ACTION: Nick (centillion) to review with Noel (DT) about the match of use cases and consider support.

DECISION API to be de-prioritised following de-prioritisation by OGW, but to remain in backlog. Issue to remain open.

MEETING UPDATE:

 Not treated

68

Telefonica

New API proposal - Consent URL

The API template is available PR#67

The API proposal was presented, including additional slide info 

Discussion to follow offline in the issue/PR.

  • To hold a separated ad-hoc meeting to clarify the scope and need of the API (conclusions to be shared with backlog before any further decision)

Huub Appelboom supports API proposal

G. Murat Karabulut previously raised some concerns but seem clarified with last documentation. (uploaded in API PR#67 and also direct link)

Pending: Proposal to be brought to TSC if no other concern is raised before end of week.

MEETING UPDATE:

under discussion in I&CM

83

China Mobile

Model As A Service Family

The API template is available in PR#84 - MaaS (Model As A Service) Family

China Mobile presented the API

ACTION: To include support from ZTE and Huawei. Proposals in good shape for been moved to TSC approval, Haojie Li asked for one additional round for more clarifications and comments.

 MEETING UPDATE:

Haojie Li proposes to move to next TSC for approval → AgreedTSC approved, PR merged

Pending group creation and maintainer assigning

85

China Mobile

Knowledge Base - Manage

The API template is available in PR#84 - Knowledge Base - Manage

 

As per 83

 

86

China Mobile

Q&A Assistant - Manage

The API template is available in PR#84 - Q&A Assistant - Manage

 

As per 83

87

China Mobile

Q&A Assistant - Service

The API template is available in PR#84 - Q&A Assistant - Service

 

As per 83

91

Telefonica

Fixed Lines in Location

The API template is available in PR#92

METING UPDATE:

to be open Issue in location group (no comments received)

Review of Action Points

DP #

DP description

Status

1

Increase backlog meeting duration from 1 to 1:30:

  1. 2nd Thursday of the month (10-11:30 CET)

  2. 4th Thursday of the month (15-16:30 CET)

Agreed

 

 

AP #

AP Owner

AP description

Related issue

Status

20240523-01

API Backlog Governance

Backlog Governance to reach up TelecomXchange & Netfocusin to see if the could connect next meetings

23 24

Open

20240711-04

MTN/Chenosis

IMEI Fraud: Check the material shared by Eric/GSMA regarding DeviceCheck, and validate the inclusion of the API in the Device Identifier group

  • IMEI Fraud will offer more information than GSMA Device Check service. MTN and other supporters should meet with GSMA to discuss if proceeding with this API within CAMARA still makes sense. Request for meeting already sent by GSMA.

  • Action to remain open until after meeting with GSMA is held

Meeting Update: Waiting for more updates, any other operator open to join

63

Open

20240801-04

Vodafone

Scope Enhancement for Network info:

To clarify if new API is proposed  in the Device Status Family or it's an enhancement over an existing API.

To clarify it's relationship with Open Gateway Telco Finder API.

  • Kevin opened PR #72 to complement Issue #66. Both still open.

  • Noel commented that this is likely to be accepted

  • New repository is likely to be required

  • Action to stay open until PR#72 is decided

Meeting Update: Closed as per issue update

61

Closed

20240808-01

Ericsson

Dedicated Networks: Eric to check with Miranda in Issue #60 if her preference is for separate sub-projects, or for DN to join NSB sub-project

  • No response yet

Meeting Update: Closed as per issue update

60

Closed

20240822-01

Telefonica

Consent URL API: Discussion to follow offline in the issue/PR around Consent URL API use cases/user stories

  • To hold a separated ad-hoc meeting to clarify the scope and need of the API (conclusions to be shared with backlog before any further decision)

Meeting Update: Closed as per issue update 

68

Closed

20240822-02

Vodafone

Scope Enhancement for Network info:

Kevin opened PR#72 to complement Issue 66. Both still open about destination of API

  • Device Status group to confirm, TSC will review the match or alignment with Telco finder (GSMA)

Meeting Update: Closed as per issue update

66

Closed

20240912-01

Cablelabs

QualityByDesign:

  1. List of maintainer/codeowner https://github.com/camaraproject/APIBacklog/issues/70

  2. User stories for the project, as first deliverable of the group

  3. Discuss the concept & propose rename

  4.  (TSC) Adjust the name

 

70

Open

20240926-01

Telefonica

Telco Scoring 

  • Decide final name proposal for repo creation → Closed

  • Pending to confirm codeowner/maintainers, email sent and issue in discussion

 41

Open

20240926-02

Ericsson

Dedicated Networks

  • Pending to confirm codeowner/maintainers, email sent and issue in discussion → closed

60

Closed

20240926-03

China Mobile

5G New Calling

  • China mobile to further present the API proposal and include material in API  PR#31.

  • Partners to comment and further discuss the proposal.

35

Open

20240926-04

Verizon

Device Management

  • Verizon to upload current yaml for clarification in PR#30, and present again in next meeting.

50

Open

20240926-05

Vodafone

Scope Enhancement for Network info

  • Enhancement proposal to be updated by Kevin Smith according to final scope agreed in Device Status group, TSC to be informed about final decision. → Closed

66

Open

20241010-01

China Mobile

IP High-throughput Elastic Network 

  • Provide more information on the technology dependancy, and the differences to current proposals

    • Slice bookking

    • QoD

    • Dedicat

89

Open

20241010-02

ALL

IMEI Fraud

  • Provide support from any company to take this API.

63

Open

Decision Points

Governance to reach up TelecomXchange & Netfocusin to see if the could connect next meetings

23 24

Open

20240711-04

MTN/Chenosis

IMEI Fraud: Check the material shared by Eric/GSMA regarding DeviceCheck, and validate the inclusion of the API in the Device Identifier group

  • IMEI Fraud will offer more information than GSMA Device Check service. MTN and other supporters should meet with GSMA to discuss if proceeding with this API within CAMARA still makes sense. Request for meeting already sent by GSMA.

  • Action to remain open until after meeting with GSMA is held

Meeting Update: Waiting for more updates, any other operator open to join

63

Open

20240912-01

Cablelabs

QualityByDesign:

  1. List of maintainer/codeowner https://github.com/camaraproject/APIBacklog/issues/70

  2. User stories for the project, as first deliverable of the group

  3. Discuss the concept & propose rename

  4.  (TSC) Adjust the name

 

70

Open

20240926-01

Telefonica

Telco Scoring 

  • Decide final name proposal for repo creation → Closed

  • Pending to confirm codeowner/maintainers, email sent and issue in discussion

 41

Open

20240926-03

China Mobile

5G New Calling

35

Open

20240926-04

Verizon

Device Management

  • Verizon to upload current yaml for clarification in PR#30, and present again in next meeting.

  • Slides presented by Mahesh Chapalamadugu & @joshua

    Slide will be uploaded and reviewed offline before approval

50

Closed

NEW 20241024-02

20241010-01

China Mobile

IP High-throughput Elastic Network 

  • Provide more information on the technology dependancy, and the differences to current proposals

    • Slice bookking

    • QoD

    • Dedicated Networks

Pending review from Kevin about responses in the PR. Jorge Garcia Hospital raised concerns about technology dependancy in this API proposal

89

Open

20241010-02

ALL

IMEI Fraud

  • Provide support from any company to take this API.

63

Open

20241024-01

China Telecom

Clarifications required in IoT API Proposals

95 96 97

Open

20241024-02

Verizon

Device Management

  • Slides presented by Mahesh Chapalamadugu & @joshua

    Slide will be uploaded and reviewed offline before approval

50

Open

20241024-03

T-Mobile US

Capability and Runtime Restrictions

Ask to G. Murat Karabulut to provide some examples where this API will be useful. To be revisited during the after-next TSC meeting .

22

Open

Decision Points

DP #

DP description

Status

1

Increase backlog meeting duration from 1 to 1:30:

  1. 2nd Thursday of the month (10-11:30 CET)

  2. 4th Thursday of the month (15-16:30 CET)

Agreed

 2

 Move meeting schedule to UTC:

  • Backlog 2nd Thursday: 09:00 UTC (10:00 CET / 01:00 PT) [Note: during next DST, 11:00 CEST / 02:00 PST]

  • Backlog 4th Thursday: 14:00 UTC (15:00 CET / 06:00 PT) [Note: during next DST, 16:00 CEST / 07:00 PST]

Or align with TSC:

  • Backlog 2nd Thursday: 09:00 UTC (10:00 CET / 01:00 PT) [Note: during next DST, 11:00 CEST / 02:00 PST]

  • Backlog 4th Thursday: 15:00 UTC (16:00 CET / 07:00 PT) [Note: during next DST, 17:00 CEST / 08:00 PST]

Move to UTC aligned with TSC slots.

 

 

 

 

 

 

AoB

Proposal to extend meeting half hour (1:30 total) to accomodate all new APIs and also the track of existing.

Agreed

Next Backlog conf. call: 24th October, 15-16 CET/UTC+2.

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