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Attendees
Organization | Name |
Orange | |
Charter Communications | |
CableLabs | |
Telefonica | |
Vodafone | |
Ericsson | |
AT&T | |
T-Mobile US | |
KDDI | |
Slagen | |
Nokia | |
China Telecom | |
ZTE | |
KPN | |
GSMA | Reg Cox Mark Cornall |
Centilion | |
Chunghwa Telecom | |
Deutsche Telekom | |
MTN | |
China Mobile | @yinming Fu |
Verizon | |
PlektonLabs | |
TIM | fabrizio moggio Antonio Varvara |
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To close the agenda SEVEN DAYS BEFORE the conf. call.
In case a WG participant wants to include a point in the agenda (e.g., present a new API proposal), this participant shall ensure the corresponding issue is opened in Github by then.
Exceptional situations will be treated separately.
New schedule of conf. calls **The meetings are to be held by Linux Foundation (Links available at GitHub and Confluence Backlog front pages)
2nd Thursday of the month (9-10:30 UTC)
4th Thursday of the month (15-16:30 UTC)
Send agenda to TSC mail list, to encourage more TSC member companies to join the call and provide comments when they identify APIs which are of interest for them.
New API proposals are included in backlog table when template PR is created, linking to the pending PR
PR will be merged as soon as ready for TSC, and should be merged before TSC review
API enhancements requires existing group’s validation. TSC is informed accordingly to validate
Link and status in backlog table will be updated accordingly
Issue to track API onboarding will be opened once new API is confirmed in TSC.
Approval of minutes of last conf. call
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Issue # | Company | Summary | Status Update | |||
Centillion | New Proposal for Authorization for Advertisements, Advertisements Consent, and Measurement The API template is available in PR#73. | Published new standards, Next meeting (this time) Nick will bring all the documentation and present everything putted together The issue is not eligible to be closed yet. Pending to provide a concrete API description into the API proposal template Action: Clarifying with interested parties whether this may be a possible API or a Framework etc. AP: provide required information and examples MEETING UPDATE: No update | ||||
TelecomsXChange | New Proposal: Carrier Wholesale Pricing The API template is available in PR#77 First YAML available here | The issue was not treated in this conference call The issue is not eligible to be closed yet. ACTION: Backlog Governance to reach up TelecomXchange to see if the could connect next meetings MEETING UPDATE: No update | ||||
Netfocusin Technologies | New Proposal: Steering of Roaming Management The API template is available in PR#78
| Does not seem to be in the Scope of Camara. Not an east-west (not between telcos) Already included in 3GPP as technical viable (provided in comment) The issue is not eligible to be closed yet. ACTION: Check for support/commitment from the partners (technical implementation approach important) Meeting Update: No update | ||||
China Mobile | 5G New Calling The API template is available PR#31 | Telefonica and Vodafone willing to see the presentation to check whether there is support for this To be treated in next session (still pending for providing extra info) Presentation of current proposal was shared in the meeting. Slides to be included in PR#31. G. Murat Karabulut asked about the proposal been part of WebRTC enhancement or new API → new API. Eric Murray asked about examples of 3rd parties in this API flow → app invoquing API to request or activate features, which can be enabled or not by the telco. Mark Cornall raised the existance of a 5G New Calling project in GSMA: https://www.gsma.com/get-involved/gsma-foundry/5g-new-calling/ & 5GNCTF Meeting#1 ACTION: Operators open to comment/ask for clarification and support the API. Eric Murray asks for user stories that can explain the behaviour of the proposed API, as not clear how this interacts with the proper 5G New Calling standard and how it solves the features that are proposed. AP for Haojie Li https://github.com/camaraproject/WebRTC/issues/52 to discuss in WebRTC about relationship new information to be uploaded and treated in next session Recommendation is that China Mobile join regular WebRTC call to discuss 5G New Calling proposal there. MEETING UPDATE: No updates | ||||
Verizon | Device Management The API template is available PR#30 | The issue was not treated in this conference call The issue is not eligible to be closed yet. Action to contact Verizon to ensure participation in next backlog meeting API proposal presented by Mahesh Chapalamadugu , clarified this proposal is targeted for IoT device management to activate/deactivate/manage the connection of those devices. ACTION:Mahesh Chapalamadugu to upload current yaml for clarification in PR#30, and present again in next meeting. Mahesh Chapalamadugu AP to upload documentation Slides presented by Mahesh Chapalamadugu & @joshua Slide will be uploaded and reviewed offline before approval MEETING UPDATE: Review match with other Device management APIs (home devices or similar) and IoT/Device status (AP Backlog: contact Mahesh) Also ensure this is a proper telco capacity to be consumed by developers, in comparison with Operate API (TM Forum) that are related to Aggregators. | ||||
MTN | New API proposal - IMEI Fraud The API template is available PR#64 | This API was presented already and included in an existing group but no work was done so discontinued. Now Rebecca is presenting the proposal seeking for support DeviceCheck GSMA proposal overlaps this IMEI Fraud will offer more information to developers than GSMA Device Check service. MTN and other supporters should meet with GSMA to discuss if proceeding with this API within CAMARA still makes sense. Request for meeting already sent by GSMA to MTN Outcome of meeting awaited before deciding if this API proposal should proceed in CAMARA
Eric Murray : (IMEI status) service related, but GSMA is ok for this proposal. ACTION: Pending from MTN for moving on with this API. Maybe to be included in the Device Identifier family. @reg no further information from MTN, consider to de-prioritize, pending to further update Any other operator open to take the lead of this API is welcomed MEETING UPDATE: No update (pending) | ||||
China Telecom | IoT SIM Status Mgmt API The API template is available in PR#105 | Relationship with device management proposal, to confirm relationship. AP: China Telecom Meeting considered that this proposal has some overlap with the Device Management proposal from Verizon APs: China Telecom
Moyuan Sun proposal to be modified to “communication capabilities” to avoid overlap with Device Management API proposal 50 Slides presented in the meeting (to be updated into the API proposal documentation) Eric Murray G. Murat Karabulut New proposal focused on the management of services of devices (activate/deactivate) but still in relation with Device Management concept Mahesh Chapalamadugu (Verizon) to confirm if both proposals may still be merged AP: Email thread to be opened to provide a common position | ||||
China Telecom | IoT SIM Fraud Prevention API The API template is available in PR#103 | Jorge Garcia Hospital is it required to create a new set of APIs only for IoT devices or can they live in the existing groups? Eric Murray agrees, device status can take in charge of this new parameters, check first with this subgroup https://github.com/camaraproject/DeviceStatus MEETING UPDATE: Meeting agreed with China Telecom that this proposal does not fit within Device Status sub-project APs: China Telecom
MEETING UPDATE: New proposal shared byMoyuan Sun about SIM-Device binding change (possibly related to Device Swap) and area alerting (possibly related to Geofencing). Actions over lines are part of Device Management. AP: China Telecom to update proposal in PR#103 | ||||
China Telecom | IoT SMS send API The API template is available in PR#104 | Jorge Garcia Hospital Mahesh Chapalamadugu requires to validate this proposal with existing SMS Send API https://github.com/camaraproject/ShortMessageService AP: China Telecom MEETING UPDATE: Proposal to be withdrawn → AP to take it out | ||||
Verizon | Support application resource requirements in application profiles The API template is available in PR#110 | METING UPDATE: No update | ||||
China Unicom | SIM Historical Information The API template is available in PR#114 | Eric Murray comment: Sounds like a “historical SIM Swap” API. Discuss with SIM Swap sub-project. APs: China Unicom
METING UPDATE: no updates | ||||
China Unicom | User Account Spend Count The API template is available in PR#120 | METING UPDATE: Use case appears to be a KYC use case APs: China Unicom
METING UPDATE: no updates | ||||
China Unicom | Number Of Cards Under User's ID The API template is available in PR#119 | Use case appears to be a KYC use case APs: China Unicom
METING UPDATE: no updates | ||||
China Mobile | Facial Recognition The API template is available in PR#130 | EasyCLA to be solved METING UPDATE: material presented by YinMing Fu. Eric Murray proposes in 126 to consider this APi as part of already existing ModelAsA Service APi group (also from China Mobile) YinMing Fu considers APi separated as MaaS focused on LLM models Eric Murray raises issues on match with CAMARA authentication, privacy and identity existing mechanisms to be applied in this API Jorge Garcia Hospital raised question on the telco capabilities been leveraged AP to China Mobile to clarify open points | ||||
China Unicom | Network Health Assessment The API template is available in PR#129 | EasyCLA to be solved METING UPDATE: No updates | ||||
China Unicom | Network Traffic Analysis The API template is available in PR#129 | EasyCLA to be solved METING UPDATE: No updates | ||||
China Unicom | eSIM Remote Management The API template is available in PR#140 | METING UPDATE: No updates | ||||
TIM | Energy Footprint Notification The API template is available in PR#142 | METING UPDATE: API to report energy consumption of a service including computing and communication. Kevin Smith asks about the “energy scopes” managed by this API (carbon footprint, electricity consumption…) https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/green/documents/ fabrizio moggio proposes to create an API that can report reports from the operator depending on the calculation that each telco can create (depending on the information sources of each one). | TIM | IoT Data Transfer Activation Nick Venezia https://taxation-customs.ec.europa.eu/carbon-border-adjustment-mechanism_en#:~:text=Why%20CBAM?-,CBAM,the%20decarbonisation%20of%20EU%20industry | ||
TIM | IoT Data Transfer Activation The API template is available in PR#144 | METING UPDATE: Focused on booking resources for a non-warranted connection for IoT, group of many devices at once, during a certain period. Not directly related to QoD or HighThroughput API. Kevin Smith posible overlap with Dedicated Network API (proposal), related to configure a network for a set of devices. To be reviewed. AP: Open issue in Dedicated Network API to discuss. |
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T-Mobile US | Capability and Runtime Restrictions The API template is available in PR#74 | It was accepted by the TSC to treat this as a new API Initial YAML files to be included in the API TEMPLATE
MEETING UPDATE: TSC Decision: Ask to G. Murat Karabulut to provide some examples where this API will be useful. To be revisited during the after-next TSC meeting . | Totogi | New Proposal: Receive SMSApproved for Sandbox repository Follow-up on API onboarding: | ||||||||||||||
Totogi | New Proposal: Receive SMS The API template is available in PR#75 |
Seems to fit in the SMS as a new scope enhancement The issue is not eligible to be closed yet. ACTION: Ricardo to formally proceed with the scope enhancement os the SMS group MEETING UPDATE:
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Deutsche Telekom | Best Interconnection The API template is available in PR#75 |
Seems to fit in the SMS as a new scope enhancement The issue is not eligible to be closed yet. ACTION: Ricardo to formally proceed with the scope enhancement os the SMS group MEETING UPDATE:
| Telefonica | New API Proposal: Telco ScoringPR#88 Input from OGW Drop 3 | Seek for support ACTION: See if there is any overlap within EdgeCloud ACTION: Nick (centillion) to review with Noel (DT) about the match of use cases and consider support. DECISION API to be de-prioritised following de-prioritisation by OGW, but to remain in backlog. Issue to remain open. MEETING UPDATE: Not treated | |||||||||||||
Telefonica | Deutsche Telekom | New API proposal - Consent URL The API template is available PR#42 Input from OGW Drop 4 | Presented slides: API-Overview-TelcoScore.pptx The API seems to not fit within KYC and new sg should be created. Support is required, feel free Scoring can be calculated both with any user registered in the telco. Less information means less scoring, Algorithm may be different for each of the implementators (MNO) ACTION: Toshi validate if This API may fit within KYC API family → The issue was raised but still under discussion →(Toshi's proposal 20240627) In API Backlog 20240613 meeting, Jorge TEF and Toshi KDDI agreed that the API does not fit within the existing KYC-SP. Then, in KYC-SP 20240625 meeting, that was shared within KYC-SP and there was no objection. Closed. Pending meeting with DT to seek for support. ACTION Noel to come back to TEF Telefonica manage to find the support of VDF (Kevin confirmed in the chat also) and DT if no objections. The name should be readressed, Jorge was prposing Telco Index to avoid using legal restrictions for using words "Credit" and "Scoring". Nick propose Telco Trust → Discussing this in the issue ofline. Tanja (note in chat on behalf of Release Mgmt): Reminder to not use Telco specific terms in API names. To avoid: Telco, operator, CSP, subscriber, customer, EMEI, UE, etc. Pending:
MEETING UPDATE: All ready, to be closed | Best InterconnectionPR#67 | The API proposal was presented, including additional slide info Discussion to follow offline in the issue/PR.
Huub Appelboom supports API proposal G. Murat Karabulut previously raised some concerns but seem clarified with last documentation. (uploaded in API PR#67 and also direct link) Pending: Proposal to be brought to TSC if no other concern is raised before end of week. MEETING UPDATE: under discussion in I&CM | |||||||||||||
Telefonica | Fixed Lines in Location The API template is available in PR#92 | METING UPDATE: Issue open in Carrier Billing https://github.com/camaraproject/CarrierBillingCheckOut/issues/190 | ||||||||||||||||
Telefonica | Line Eligibility for Carrier Billing API The API template is available in PR#94 | MEETING UPDATE: Issue open in location https://github.com/camaraproject/DeviceLocation/issues/271 | ||||||||||||||||
China Mobile | IP High-throughput Elastic Network The API template is available in PR#88 Input from OGW Drop 3 | Seek for support ACTION: See if there is any overlap within EdgeCloud ACTION: Nick (centillion) to review with Noel (DT) about the match of use cases and consider support. DECISION API to be de-prioritised following de-prioritisation by OGW, but to remain in backlog. Issue to remain open. MEETING UPDATE: Not treated | Telefonica | New API proposal - Consent URL The API template is available PR#67 | China Mobile | China Mobile presented the API ACTION: To include support from ZTE and Huawei. Proposals in good shape for been moved to TSC approval, Haojie Li asked for one additional round for more clarifications and comments. MEETING UPDATE: Group created, actions pending to be solved
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Telefonica | Fixed Lines in Location The API template is available in PR#92 | METING UPDATE: Issue open in Carrier Billing https://github.com/camaraproject/CarrierBillingCheckOut/issues/190 | ||||||||||||||||
Telefonica | Line Eligibility for Carrier Billing API The API template is available in PR#94 | MEETING UPDATE: Issue open in location PR#90 | Approved for Sandbox repository Follow-up on API onboarding: https://github.com/camaraproject/APIBacklog/issues/133 |
Review of Action Points
AP # | AP Owner | AP description | Related issue | Status |
20240523-01 | API Backlog Governance | Backlog Governance to reach up TelecomXchange & Netfocusin to see if the could connect next meetings | Open | |
20240711-04 | MTN/Chenosis | IMEI Fraud: Check the material shared by Eric/GSMA regarding DeviceCheck, and validate the inclusion of the API in the Device Identifier group
Meeting Update: Waiting for more updates, any other operator open to join | Open | |
20240912-01 | Cablelabs | QualityByDesign:
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China Mobile
IP High-throughput Elastic Network
The API template is available in PR#90
Approved for Sandbox repository
Review of Action Points
AP # | AP Owner | AP description | Related issue | Status | |
20240523-01 | API Backlog Governance | Backlog Governance to reach up TelecomXchange & Netfocusin to see if the could connect next meetings | Open | ||
20240711-04 | MTN/Chenosis | IMEI Fraud: Check the material shared by Eric/GSMA regarding DeviceCheck, and validate the inclusion of the API in the Device Identifier group
Meeting Update: Waiting for more updates, any other operator open to join | Open | ||
20240912-01 | Cablelabs | QualityByDesign:
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20240926-01 | Telefonica | Telco Scoring
| Open | ||
20240926-03 | China Mobile | 5G New Calling China mobile to further present the API proposal and include material in API PR#31.
| Closed | ||
20240926-01 | Telefonica | Telco Scoring
| Closed | ||
20240926-03 | China Mobile | 5G New Calling
| Open | ||
20241010-01 | China Mobile | IP High-throughput Elastic Network
Pending review from Kevin about responses in the PR. Jorge Garcia Hospital raised concerns about technology dependancy in this API proposal | Closed | ||
20241010-02 | ALL | IMEI Fraud
| Open | ||
20241024-01 | China Telecom | Clarifications required in IoT API Proposals | Closed | ||
20241024-02 | Verizon | Device Management
| Open | ||
20241024-03 | T-Mobile US | Capability and Runtime Restrictions Ask to G. Murat Karabulut to provide some examples where this API will be useful. To be revisited during the after-next TSC meeting . | Closed | ||
20241114-01 | Cablelabs | QualityByDesign:
| Open | ||
20241010-01 | China Mobile | IP High-throughput Elastic Network
Pending review from Kevin about responses in the PR. Jorge Garcia Hospital raised concerns about technology dependancy in this API proposal | Open | ||
20241010-02 | ALL | IMEI Fraud
| Open | ||
20241024-01 | China Telecom | Clarifications required in IoT API Proposals | Open | ||
20241024-02 | Verizon | Device Management
| Open | ||
20241024-03 | T-Mobile US | Capability and Runtime Restrictions Ask to G. Murat Karabulut to provide some examples where this API will be useful. To be revisited during the after-next TSC meeting . | Open | ||
20241114-01 | Cablelabs | QualityByDesign:
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20241128-01 | China Telecom | IoT SIM Status Mgmt API: Slides presented in the meeting (to be updated into the API proposal documentation) Eric Murray G. Murat Karabulut New proposal focused on the management of services of devices (activate/deactivate) but still in relation with Device Management concept Mahesh Chapalamadugu (Verizon) to confirm if both proposals may still be merged AP: Email thread to be opened to provide a common position | Open | ||
20241128-02 | China Telecom | IoT SIM Fraud Prevention API New proposal shared byMoyuan Sun about SIM-Device binding change (possibly related to Device Swap) and area alerting (possibly related to Geofencing). Actions over lines are part of Device Management. AP: China Telecom to update proposal in PR#103 | Open | ||
20241128-03 | Backlog Admins | IoT SMS send API Proposal to be withdrawn → AP to take it out | Open | ||
20241128-04 | China Mobile | Facial Recognition Eric Murray proposes in 126 to consider this APi as part of already existing ModelAsA Service APi group (also from China Mobile) YinMing Fu considers APi separated as MaaS focused on LLM models Eric Murray raises issues on match with CAMARA authentication, privacy and identity existing mechanisms to be applied in this API Jorge Garcia Hospital raised question on the telco capabilities been leveraged, to be clarified AP to China Mobile to clarify open points | Open | ||
20241128-05 | TIM | IoT Data Transfer Activation Kevin Smith posible overlap with Dedicated Network API (proposal), related to configure a network for a set of devices. To be reviewed. AP: Open issue in Dedicated Network API to discuss. | Open |
Decision Points
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1 | Increase backlog meeting duration from 1 to 1:30:
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2 | Move meeting schedule to UTC:
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