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DRAFT MINUTES

Attendees

 

Organization

Name

Orange

Ludovic Robert

Charter Communications

Christopher Aubut

CableLabs

Telefonica

Vodafone

Eric Murray

Ericsson

Jan Friman

AT&T

Pierre Close

T-Mobile US

KDDI

Yusuke Nakano

Slagen

Nokia

China Telecom

ZTE

KPN

GSMA

Centilion

Chunghwa Telecom

Deutsche Telekom

MTN

China Mobile

Verizon

PlektonLabs

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  • Minutes of last API backlog WG call available here

    • DECISION: Approved

Recent Updates & Recap

TSC meeting 7th November:

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Jorge Garcia Hospital Mahesh Chapalamadugu requires to validate this proposal with existing SMS Send API https://github.com/camaraproject/ShortMessageService

AP: China Telecom

MEETING UPDATE:

METING UPDATE:

METING UPDATE:

Issue #

Company

Summary

Status Update

17 

Centillion

New Proposal for Authorization for Advertisements, Advertisements Consent, and Measurement

The API template is available in PR#73.

Published new standards, Next meeting (this time) Nick will bring all the documentation and present everything putted together

The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

Pending to provide a concrete API description into the API proposal template

Action: Clarifying with interested parties whether this may be a possible API or a Framework etc.

AP: provide required information and examples

MEETING UPDATE:Nick Venezia : Framework proposal including different APIs that may interact with existing ecosystem. Pending to provide info, work expected to be started in 1Q25

No update

23

TelecomsXChange

New Proposal: Carrier Wholesale Pricing

The API template is available in PR#77

First YAML available here

The issue was not treated in this conference call

The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

ACTION: Backlog Governance to reach up TelecomXchange to see if the could connect next meetings

MEETING UPDATE:

Not treatedNo update

24

Netfocusin Technologies

New Proposal: Steering of Roaming Management

The API template is available in PR#78

 

Does not seem to be in the Scope of Camara. 

Not an east-west (not between telcos) Already included in 3GPP as technical viable (provided in comment)

The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

ACTION: Check for support/commitment from the partners (technical implementation approach important)

Meeting Update:

Not treatedNo update

35

China Mobile

5G New Calling

The API template is available PR#31

Telefonica and Vodafone willing to see the presentation to check whether there is support for this

To be treated in next session (still pending for providing extra info)

Presentation of current proposal was shared in the meeting. Slides to be included in  PR#31.

G. Murat Karabulut asked about the proposal been part of WebRTC enhancement or new API → new API.

Eric Murray asked about examples of 3rd parties in this API flow → app invoquing API to request or activate features, which can be enabled or not by the telco.

Mark Cornall raised the existance of a 5G New Calling project in GSMA: https://www.gsma.com/get-involved/gsma-foundry/5g-new-calling/ & 5GNCTF Meeting#1

ACTION: Operators open to comment/ask for clarification and support the API.

Eric Murray asks for user stories that can explain the behaviour of the proposed API, as not clear how this interacts with the proper 5G New Calling standard and how it solves the features that are proposed.

AP for Haojie Li

https://github.com/camaraproject/WebRTC/issues/52 to discuss in WebRTC about relationship

new information to be uploaded and treated in next session

MEETING UPDATE:

50

Verizon

Device Management

No-one from China Mobile present. Recommendation is that China Mobile join regular WebRTC call to discuss 5G New Calling proposal there.

50

Verizon

Device Management

The API template is available PR#30

The issue was not treated in this conference call

The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

Action to contact Verizon to ensure participation in next backlog meeting

API proposal presented by Mahesh Chapalamadugu , clarified this proposal is targeted for IoT device management to activate/deactivate/manage the connection of those devices.

ACTION:Mahesh Chapalamadugu to upload current yaml for clarification in PR#30, and present again in next meeting.

Mahesh Chapalamadugu AP to upload documentation

Slides presented by Mahesh Chapalamadugu & @joshua

Slide will be uploaded and reviewed offline before approval

MEETING UPDATE:

No update

63

MTN

New API proposal - IMEI Fraud

The API template is available PR#64

This API was presented already and included in an existing group but no work was done so discontinued. Now Rebecca is presenting the proposal seeking for support

DeviceCheck GSMA proposal overlaps this

IMEI Fraud will offer more information to developers than GSMA Device Check service.

MTN and other supporters should meet with GSMA to discuss if proceeding with this API within CAMARA still makes sense.

Request for meeting already sent by GSMA to MTN

Outcome of meeting awaited before deciding if this API proposal should proceed in CAMARA

  • Pending to be confirmed by MTN, AP to be raised.

Eric Murray : (IMEI status) service related, but GSMA is ok for this proposal.

ACTION: Pending from MTN for moving on with this API. Maybe to be included in the Device Identifier family.

 @reg no further information from MTN, consider to de-prioritize, pending to further update

Any other operator open to take the lead of this API is welcomed

MEETING UPDATE:

No update (pending)

89

China Mobile

IP High-throughput Elastic Network 

The API template is available in PR#90

Supporting document (presented) https://github.com/camaraproject/APIBacklog/raw/0a447dd4c53d0c675f8d72fc5622ff65eb48f7e3/documentation/SupportingDocuments/APIproposal_IP-high-throughput-elastic-network_ChinaMobile.pptx

Jan Friman asked about the relation of this proposal with current CAMARA’s APis dedicated to network config (QoD, slice booking…). @qiuhai explained that this proposal is focused on enabling new network technologies like Srv6

Mark Cornall shared comments about the technology dependence on QoD solutions

Kevin Smith & Jorge Garcia Hospital asked for more details on the difference with current proposals

Pending review from Kevin about responses in the PR. Jorge Garcia Hospital raised concerns about technology dependancy in this API proposal

MEETING UPDATE:

95

China Telecom

IoT SIM Status Mgmt API

The API template is available in PR#105

Relationship with device management proposal, to confirm relationship.

AP: China Telecom

MEETING UPDATE:

96Jianfeng Huang presented an update of the proposal. API will now be technology agnostic.

Mark Cornall agrees with proposed modifications

No other objections to modified proposal raised in the meeting

AP: China Mobile

  • China Mobile to update proposal in github with proposed modifications. Update should be to both PR#90 and Issue #90.

DECISION: If update is done by end Friday , proposal can be put to to TSC meeting on Thursday for final approval. Otherwise will need to be meeting.

95

China Telecom

IoT SIM Fraud Prevention Status Mgmt API

The API template is available in PR#103

Jorge Garcia Hospital is it required to create a new set of APIs only for IoT devices or can they live in the existing groups?

Eric Murray agrees, device status can take in charge of this new parameters, check first with this subgroup https://github.com/camaraproject/DeviceStatus PR#105

Relationship with device management proposal, to confirm relationship.

AP: China Telecom

MEETING UPDATE:

97

China Telecom

IoT SMS send API

The API template is available in PR#104

109

Verizon

Support application resource requirements in application profiles

The API template is available in PR#110

115

China Unicom

SIM Historical InformationMeeting considered that this proposal has some overlap with the Device Management proposal from Verizon

APs: China Telecom

  • China Telecom to discuss with Verizon (Mahesh Chapalamadugu) bringing this API into scope of Device Management API proposal. Discuss initially within Issue #50.

    • If scopes can be merged, Verizon can update PR#30 accordingly;

    • Otherwise propose to continue proposal as a new sub-project at next API Backlog meeting

96

China Telecom

IoT SIM Fraud Prevention API

The API template is available in PR#114

METING UPDATE:

121

China Unicom

User Account Spend Count

The API template is available in PR#120

122

China Unicom

Number Of Cards Under User's ID

The API template is available in PR#119

METING UPDATE:PR#103

Jorge Garcia Hospital is it required to create a new set of APIs only for IoT devices or can they live in the existing groups?

Eric Murray agrees, device status can take in charge of this new parameters, check first with this subgroup https://github.com/camaraproject/DeviceStatus

MEETING UPDATE:

Meeting agreed with China Telecom that this proposal does not fit within Device Status sub-project

APs: China Telecom

  • China Telecom to discuss with Verizon (Mahesh Chapalamadugu) bringing this API into scope of Device Management API proposal. Discuss initially within Issue #50.

    • If scopes can be merged, Verizon can update PR#30 accordingly;

    • Otherwise propose to continue proposal as a new sub-project at next API Backlog meeting

97

China Telecom

IoT SMS send API

The API template is available in PR#104

Jorge Garcia Hospital Mahesh Chapalamadugu requires to validate this proposal with existing SMS Send API https://github.com/camaraproject/ShortMessageService

AP: China Telecom

MEETING UPDATE:

Proposal to be withdrawn

109

Verizon

Support application resource requirements in application profiles

The API template is available in PR#110

METING UPDATE:

No update

115

China Unicom

SIM Historical Information

The API template is available in PR#114

METING UPDATE:

Eric Murray comment: Sounds like a “historical SIM Swap” API. Discuss with SIM Swap sub-project.

APs: China Unicom

  • Upload presentation to github by adding as additional document to PR#114

  • Raise issue in SIM Swap sub-project proposing to bring new use case into SIM Swap. Refer to PR#114 in the new issue.

  • If SIM Swap sub-project agree that new API fits within the scope of that sub-project, then submit a sub-project scope modification request to API backlog, otherwise try to progress proposal as a new sub-project at next API Backlog meeting

121

China Unicom

User Account Spend Count

The API template is available in PR#120

METING UPDATE:

Use case appears to be a KYC use case

APs: China Unicom

  • Upload presentation to github by adding as additional document to PR#120

  • Raise issue within KYC sub-project proposing to bring new use case into KYC. Refer to PR#120 in the new issue.

  • If KYC sub-project agree that new API fits within the scope of that sub-project, then submit a sub-project scope modification request to API backlog, otherwise try to progress proposal as a new sub-project at next API Backlog meeting

122

China Unicom

Number Of Cards Under User's ID

The API template is available in PR#119

METING UPDATE:

Use case appears to be a KYC use case

APs: China Unicom

  • Upload presentation to github by adding as additional document to PR#119

  • Raise issue within KYC sub-project proposing to bring new use case into KYC. Refer to PR#119 in the new issue.

  • If KYC sub-project agree that new API fits within the scope of that sub-project, then submit a sub-project scope modification request to API backlog, otherwise try to progress proposal as a new sub-project at next API Backlog meeting

Closing Issues

Issue #

Company

Summary

Status Update

22

T-Mobile US

Capability and Runtime Restrictions

The API template is available in PR#74

It was accepted by the TSC to treat this as a new API

Initial YAML files to be included in the API TEMPLATE

  • Clarifications will be provided by Murat.

    • Intended to cover these slides but time ran out:

      View file
      nameCapabilities_and_Runtime_Restrictions_Update.pptx
      and request ‘sandbox creation’. Will update the Issue #22 accordingly.

  • To be reviewed in TSC on 17th

MEETING UPDATE:

TSC Decision: Ask to G. Murat Karabulut to provide some examples where this API will be useful. To be revisited during the after-next TSC meeting .

18

Totogi

New Proposal: Receive SMS

The API template is available in PR#75

Seems to fit in the SMS as a new scope enhancement 

The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

ACTION: Ricardo to formally proceed with the scope enhancement os the SMS group

MEETING UPDATE:

  • Reminder sent

41

Telefonica

New API Proposal: Telco Scoring

The API template is available PR#42

Input from OGW Drop 4

Presented slides: API-Overview-TelcoScore.pptx

The API seems to not fit within KYC and new sg should be created. Support is required, feel free

Scoring can be calculated both with any user registered in the telco. Less information means less scoring, Algorithm may be different for each of the implementators (MNO)

ACTION: Toshi validate if This API may fit within KYC API family → The issue was raised but still under discussion 

→(Toshi's proposal 20240627) In API Backlog 20240613 meeting, Jorge TEF and Toshi KDDI agreed that the API does not fit within the existing KYC-SP.  Then, in KYC-SP 20240625 meeting, that was shared within KYC-SP and there was no objection.  Closed.

Pending meeting with DT to seek for support.

ACTION Noel to come back to TEF

Telefonica manage to find the support of VDF (Kevin confirmed in the chat also) and DT if no objections. The name should be readressed, Jorge was prposing Telco Index to avoid using legal restrictions for using words "Credit" and "Scoring".

Nick propose Telco Trust → Discussing this in the issue ofline.

Tanja (note in chat on behalf of Release Mgmt): Reminder to not use Telco specific terms in API names. To avoid: Telco, operator, CSP, subscriber, customer, EMEI, UE, etc.  

Pending:

  • Group created, pending to include maintainers/codeowners

MEETING UPDATE:

All ready, to be closed

20

Deutsche Telekom

Best Interconnection

The API template is available in PR#88

Input from OGW Drop 3

Seek for support

ACTION: See if there is any overlap within EdgeCloud

ACTION: Nick (centillion) to review with Noel (DT) about the match of use cases and consider support.

DECISION API to be de-prioritised following de-prioritisation by OGW, but to remain in backlog. Issue to remain open.

MEETING UPDATE:

 Not treated

68

Telefonica

New API proposal - Consent URL

The API template is available PR#67

The API proposal was presented, including additional slide info 

Discussion to follow offline in the issue/PR.

  • To hold a separated ad-hoc meeting to clarify the scope and need of the API (conclusions to be shared with backlog before any further decision)

Huub Appelboom supports API proposal

G. Murat Karabulut previously raised some concerns but seem clarified with last documentation. (uploaded in API PR#67 and also direct link)

Pending: Proposal to be brought to TSC if no other concern is raised before end of week.

MEETING UPDATE:

under discussion in I&CM

83

China Mobile

Model As A Service Family

The API template is available in PR#84 - MaaS (Model As A Service) Family

China Mobile presented the API

ACTION: To include support from ZTE and Huawei. Proposals in good shape for been moved to TSC approval, Haojie Li asked for one additional round for more clarifications and comments.

 MEETING UPDATE:

Group created, actions pending to be solved

  • Codeowners/maintainers to be included

  • API scope to be included

85

China Mobile

Knowledge Base - Manage

The API template is available in PR#84 - Knowledge Base - Manage

 

As per 83

 

86

China Mobile

Q&A Assistant - Manage

The API template is available in PR#84 - Q&A Assistant - Manage

 

As per 83

87

China Mobile

Q&A Assistant - Service

The API template is available in PR#84 - Q&A Assistant - Service

 

As per 83

91

Telefonica

Fixed Lines in Location

The API template is available in PR#92

METING UPDATE:

Issue open in Carrier Billing https://github.com/camaraproject/CarrierBillingCheckOut/issues/190

93

Telefonica

Line Eligibility for Carrier Billing API

The API template is available in PR#94

MEETING UPDATE:

Issue open in location https://github.com/camaraproject/DeviceLocation/issues/271

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