2025-04-24 - Customer Insights - Meeting Minutes
Community Attendees:
@Kevin Scarr (VF)
@Rafal Artych (DT)
@pedro.diezgarcia@telefonica.com (TEF)
Community Attendees:
LF Staff:
Date
Apr 24, 2025
Status: FINAL
Final Date for Comments: May 6, 2025
Agenda
Antitrust Policy
Issues review
Minutes
Management of WG
Official Timeline for Customer Insights WG settled to 14:00 UTC (15:00 CET, 16:00 CEST)
SubProject Information
CAMARA repository: https://github.com/camaraproject/CustomerInsights
Confluence Subproject site: https://lf-camaraproject.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/CAM/pages/23986339
Consolidated Work
Algorithm Model Definition Baseline https://github.com/camaraproject/CustomerInsights/pull/29 MERGED
Issues Review
Issue | Who | Status | Comments |
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WG | CLOSED | 20/FEB: Initial approach for discussion is presented. Basically from TEF side checking with Brazil Operator. Only refer to concepts as algorithm details are protected by property rights. Waiting from feedback on which information could be shared. Some questions and doubts are commented by VF. Regading social networks porbably in some VF markets that information would not possible to be provided due to legal reasons. TEF will check internally. From DT side it is also commented a possible approach (it will be compiled more feedback) where an external Platform/3rd Party performs/implement the analytics behind a common algorithm within a given market. That would imply such external platform to have access to Telco Operator' information. TEF indicates it will comment this approach internally. 06/MAR: Some conversation around the issue https://github.com/camaraproject/CustomerInsights/issues/22#issuecomment-2671805466, regarding the initial comment generated by Kevin. Some points are provided feedback, other points are still being checked by Pedro. 20/MAR: Initial PR https://github.com/camaraproject/CustomerInsights/pull/29 generated.
Kevin, Rafal and Pedro will have specific meeting to talk with more detail about this topic.
PR https://github.com/camaraproject/CustomerInsights/pull/29 with initial approach is triggered. It will be reviewed (typos, wording) and it be merged. Further enhancements agreed will be accomplished in latter PR. | |
DT | ONGOING | 06/MAR: New Topic: Two levels of scoring precision in API. 20/MAR: TEF comments that business is aligned with the concept/idea of having different precision models in order to be able to monetize them with different API pricing. They do not see this concept as linked directly to a score model but to indicate different level of precision available for any scoring model, like a new input parameter that reflects the precision required. DT will share this internally to also get some feedback, also check how this is done in other WGs like device location, having different precision for the location of the device. 03/APR: Rafal will get information from Business side. As a comment a parameter could be accomodated in request to indicate the precision and if not indicated default precision is provided. Anyway, it is an observation and it is needed more details from Business before thinking in a technical solution. Also to check info from Operate APIs and TMF regarding the provision of a product and relationship to request a higher precision. 24/APR: DT is still pending to further check about this topic. DT comments another idea, if we consider scoring model as country specific, maybe indicate this scoring granularity based in some model in the response, but not sure if this would be needed. | |
TEF | NEW | 24/APR: New issue opened by TEF on 24/APR. Within this issue the pending topics (sources and examples for algorithm model will be provided). Some initial input provided by TEF regarding sources provided, still some concepts to be checked. It is asked within the WG whether level of granularity/deep is fine (Telco Operator system that hosts this information) and WG (CT, VF) sees that approach OK. It will be needed more time to get some examples to show and document them. It is expected to generate inital PR in the next weeks, once the source is consolidated for them and communicated to the WG. | |
DT | NEW | 24/APR: New issue opened by DT on 24/APR. It tries to manage the case in countries where there is personal identification number that changes when renewed but national identification number is kept from the first time it is generated (for instance this happens in Poland and it is a case in finantial procedures). It has also to discuss with Business Team. Some clarifications are commented by TEF, just to understand the topic. The “idDocument” concept refers to the national identification number that never changes (it is permanent) and in some countries the ID number of the document changes every time that document is renewed. | |
API Release Tracker https://github.com/camaraproject/CustomerInsights/issues/32 | WG | CLOSED | Issue created and API Release Tracker created after the meeting. API Release created: |
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Next Meetings
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