2025-06-26 API backlog minutes

2025-06-26 API backlog minutes

Attendees

Organization

Name

Orange

 

Charter Communications

 

CableLabs

 

Telefonica

@Alberto Ramos Monaga

Vodafone

Ericsson

 

AT&T

@Pierre Close

T-Mobile US

@Murat Karabulut

KDDI

 

Slagen

 

Nokia

@Tanja de Groot

China Telecom

 

ZTE

 

KPN

 

GSMA

@Reg Cox

Centilion

 

Chunghwa Telecom

 

Deutsche Telekom

 

MTN

 

China Mobile

 

Verizon

 

PlektonLabs

 

TIM

 

NTT

 

China Unicom

 

Infosys Ltd

@Murat Karabulut @hemanta gogoi

Spectrum

 

Agenda Proposal


Approval of minutes of last conf. call

  • Minutes of last API backlog WG call available here

    • DECISION: Approved


Antitrust Policy

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New Procedures in API Backlog WG meetings

A number of improvements are under discussion with leadership team of OGW project (Henry), CAMARA Project (Markus), Product Definition WS (Helene) and TSC (Herbert). As of today, the WG adopted agreements are three:

  1. To close the agenda SEVEN DAYS BEFORE the conf. call.

    • In case a WG participant wants to include a point in the agenda (e.g., present a new API proposal), this participant shall ensure the corresponding issue is opened in Github by then.

    • Exceptional situations will be treated separately.

  2. New schedule of conf. calls **The meetings are to be held by Linux Foundation (Links available at GitHub and Confluence Backlog front pages)

    • 2nd Thursday of the month (9-10:30 UTC)

    • 4th Thursday of the month (15-16:30 UTC)

  3.  Send agenda to TSC mail list, to encourage more TSC member companies to join the call and provide comments when they identify APIs which are of interest for them. 

  4. New API proposals are included in backlog table when template PR is created, linking to the pending PR

  5. PR will be merged as soon as ready for TSC, and should be merged before TSC review

  6. API enhancements requires existing group’s validation. TSC is informed accordingly to validate

  7. Link and status in backlog table will be updated accordingly

  8. Issue to track API onboarding will be opened once new API is confirmed in TSC.


Recent Updates & Recap

Last TSC meeting 2025-06-19:

  • Incubation requests: TSC propose a formal vote for the transition to incubation because this is an important step in CAMARA API lifecycle.

    • Population Density Data → New subproject to be created [issue #215].

      • Decision: The TSC approved and confirmed the promotion of the PopulationDensityData API Repository to the Incubation Lifecycle state with 9 votes, which were all "+1 approve".

        • Create a wiki page for the Sub Project "Population Density Data".

        • Move the existing API repository page underneath it.

        • Change the API repository page so that it represents an “Incubating API Repository” [issue #86]

    • Device Swap → To be included in Number Insights subproject [issue #214]. Vote will take place.

      • Decision: The TSC approved and confirmed the promotion of the DeviceSwap API Repository to the Incubation Lifecycle state with 9 votes, which were all "+1 approve".

        • The wiki page is already under the right Sub Project (Number Insights).

        • It just need to be updated to represent an Incubating API Repository [Issue #54]

  • (proposal for review) Frozen API draft: A proposal has been made to introduce a “frozen” API draft status to help manage the backlog and focus on active proposals [Governance issue #189].

    • Review required. We let the issue/PR open till next TSC to gather TSC feedback and then will be discussed in next TSC. - See also PR190.

      • Decision: Approved, now we need to merge and apply the changes to the backlog group.

Other topics

  • N/A


Discussion

Current Issues 

Issue #

Company

Summary

Status Update

17 

Centillion

New Proposal for Authorization for Advertisements, Advertisements Consent, and Measurement

The API template is available in PR#73.

INITIAL CONTEXT:

Published new standards, Next meeting (this time) Nick will bring all the documentation and present everything putted together

The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

Pending to provide a concrete API description into the API proposal template

Action: Clarifying with interested parties whether this may be a possible API or a Framework etc.

AP: provide required information and examples

LAST UPDATES: No response since October 8, 2024.

Feb 27, 2025, Mar 13, 2025, Mar 27, 2025,Apr 10, 2025, Apr 24, 2025, May 8, 2025,May 22, 2025, Jun 12, 2025: not treated


MEETING UPDATE:

Jun 26, 2025: not treated

23

TelecomsXChange

New Proposal: Carrier Wholesale Pricing

The API template is available in PR#77

First YAML available here

INITIAL CONTEXT:

The issue was not treated in this conference call

The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

ACTION: Backlog Governance to reach up TelecomXchange to see if the could connect next meetings

LAST UPDATES: No response for 6 months.

Feb 27, 2025, Mar 13, 2025, Mar 27, 2025,Apr 10, 2025, Apr 24, 2025, May 8, 2025,May 22, 2025, Jun 12, 2025: not treated


MEETING UPDATE:

Jun 26, 2025: not treated

24

Netfocusin Technologies

New Proposal: Steering of Roaming Management

The API template is available in PR#78

INITIAL CONTEXT:

Does not seem to be in the Scope of Camara. 

Not an east-west (not between telcos) Already included in 3GPP as technical viable (provided in comment)

The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

ACTION: Check for support/commitment from the partners (technical implementation approach important)

LAST UPDATES: No response since May 10, 2024.

Feb 27, 2025, Mar 13, 2025, Mar 27, 2025,Apr 10, 2025, Apr 24, 2025, May 8, 2025,May 22, 2025, Jun 12, 2025: not treated


MEETING UPDATE:

Jun 26, 2025: not treated

35

China Mobile

5G New Calling

The API template is available PR#31

INITIAL CONTEXT:

Telefonica and Vodafone willing to see the presentation to check whether there is support for this

To be treated in next session (still pending for providing extra info)

Presentation of current proposal was shared in the meeting. Slides to be included in  PR#31.

@Murat Karabulut asked about the proposal been part of WebRTC enhancement or new API → new API.

@Eric Murray asked about examples of 3rd parties in this API flow → app invoquing API to request or activate features, which can be enabled or not by the telco.

@Mark Cornall raised the existance of a 5G New Calling project in GSMA: 5G New Calling & 5GNCTF Meeting#1

ACTION: Operators open to comment/ask for clarification and support the API.

@Eric Murray asks for user stories that can explain the behaviour of the proposed API, as not clear how this interacts with the proper 5G New Calling standard and how it solves the features that are proposed.

AP for @Haojie Li

Branded Calls impact in WebRTC API · Issue #52 · camaraproject/WebRTC to discuss in WebRTC about relationship

new information to be uploaded and treated in next session

Recommendation is that China Mobile join regular WebRTC call to discuss 5G New Calling proposal there.

LAST UPDATES: No response since June 11, 2024.

Feb 27, 2025, Mar 13, 2025, Mar 27, 2025,Apr 10, 2025, Apr 24, 2025, May 8, 2025,May 22, 2025, Jun 12, 2025: not treated


MEETING UPDATE:

Jun 26, 2025: not treated

63

MTN

New API proposal - IMEI Fraud

The API template is available PR#64

INITIAL CONTEXT:

This API was presented already and included in an existing group but no work was done so discontinued. Now Rebecca is presenting the proposal seeking for support

DeviceCheck GSMA proposal overlaps this

IMEI Fraud will offer more information to developers than GSMA Device Check service.

MTN and other supporters should meet with GSMA to discuss if proceeding with this API within CAMARA still makes sense.

Request for meeting already sent by GSMA to MTN

Outcome of meeting awaited before deciding if this API proposal should proceed in CAMARA

  • Pending to be confirmed by MTN, AP to be raised.

@Eric Murray : (IMEI status) service related, but GSMA is ok for this proposal.

ACTION: Pending from MTN for moving on with this API. Maybe to be included in the Device Identifier family.

 @reg no further information from MTN, consider to de-prioritize, pending to further update

Any other operator open to take the lead of this API is welcomed

LAST UPDATES: No response since September 6, 2024.

Feb 27, 2025, Mar 13, 2025, Mar 27, 2025,Apr 10, 2025, Apr 24, 2025, May 8, 2025,May 22, 2025, Jun 12, 2025: not treated


MEETING UPDATE:

Jun 26, 2025: not treated

115

China Unicom

SIM Historical Information

The API template is available in PR#114

INITIAL CONTEXT:

@Eric Murray comment: Sounds like a “historical SIM Swap” API. Discuss with SIM Swap sub-project.

APs: China Unicom

  • Upload presentation to github by adding as additional document to PR#114

  • Raise issue in SIM Swap sub-project proposing to bring new use case into SIM Swap. Refer to PR#114 in the new issue.

  • If SIM Swap sub-project agree that new API fits within the scope of that sub-project, then submit a sub-project scope modification request to API backlog, otherwise try to progress proposal as a new sub-project at next API Backlog meeting

LAST UPDATES:

Feb 13, 2025: @Fan Yang to review issue offline and provide feedback and current status of the proposal.

Feb 27, 2025: @Fan Yang no updates, will be reviewed in next meeting

Mar 13, 2025, Mar 27, 2025,Apr 10, 2025, Apr 24, 2025, May 8, 2025,May 22, 2025, Jun 12, 2025: not treated


MEETING UPDATE:

Jun 26, 2025: not treated

121

China Unicom

User Account Spend Count

The API template is available in PR#120

INITIAL CONTEXT:

Use case appears to be a KYC use case

APs: China Unicom

  • Upload presentation to github by adding as additional document to PR#120

  • Raise issue within KYC sub-project proposing to bring new use case into KYC. Refer to PR#120 in the new issue.

  • If KYC sub-project agree that new API fits within the scope of that sub-project, then submit a sub-project scope modification request to API backlog, otherwise try to progress proposal as a new sub-project at next API Backlog meeting

LAST UPDATES:

Feb 13, 2025: @Fan Yang to review issue offline and provide feedback and current status of the proposal.

Feb 27, 2025: @Fan Yang no updates, will receive new in next meeting

Mar 13, 2025, Mar 27, 2025,Apr 10, 2025, Apr 24, 2025, May 8, 2025,May 22, 2025, Jun 12, 2025: not treated


MEETING UPDATE:

Jun 26, 2025: not treated

122

China Unicom

Number Of Cards Under User's ID

The API template is available in PR#119

INITIAL CONTEXT:

Use case appears to be a KYC use case

APs: China Unicom

  • Upload presentation to github by adding as additional document to PR#119

  • Raise issue within KYC sub-project proposing to bring new use case into KYC. Refer to PR#119 in the new issue.

  • If KYC sub-project agree that new API fits within the scope of that sub-project, then submit a sub-project scope modification request to API backlog, otherwise try to progress proposal as a new sub-project at next API Backlog meeting

LAST UPDATES: