DRAFT MINUTES

Date

10 Dec 2024

Attendees & Representation

Community: Jose Luis Urien Pinedo Ludovic Robert Cetin Alpaycetin

Agenda

Antitrust Policy

• Approve previous meeting minutes

  • Approved ? Yes

• Open issues and PRs

Minutes

Release patch r1.3

• Issue created to have a tracking: Scope for potential patch r1.3

  • Issue:Update errormessage for unsupported device identifieres Small typo in GENERIC_422_UNSUPPORTED_DEVICE_IDENTIFIERS - example

  • Fix links for geofencing-subscriptions in README, add links also to Changelog

  • [geofencing-subscriptions]: MultieventSubscriptionNotSupported instead of PermissionDenied.

• It has been decided to skip the patch r1.3 due to the lack of relevant fixes.

  • If something important is reported in the future we will create a dedicated branch for it

New activity

• Scope for Spring25 release (in preparation)

  • Place holder to be linked to the API trackers, it must be completed. We may open one issue per API instead

    • Decided to open a separate issue per API

  • Created API trackers for the current 3 APIs, but next versions tbd

    • Versions still to be decided.

    • geofencing-subscriptions should remain as 0.x due to the lack of any implementation certified GSMA

    • location-retrieval could be upgraded to stable but no one was particularly interested right now. We are also adding the new functionality for maxSurface and it would be good to have some feedback from customers

    • location-verification will be 1.1 or 2.0 depending on whether back-compatibility is broken

• Define guidelines for geofencing implementation

  • New comment by Maximilian Laue

  • From previous meeting: Should be part of the discussion for next version. → Added label “Spring 25”

  • Ludovic Robert is working on this topic within Orange.

    • Discussion open in Github, please comment on it

• Error Alignement with Commonalities

  • To be discussed:
    Error code 500 & 503 could be removed but we need a decision for all 3 APIs for consistency
    Error code 429 could be removed for GET & DELETE subscriptions in Geofencing

    • It should be aligned with Commonalities

    • We can start a PR in parallel

• Update info.description with commonalities

  • Is the update required for Geofencing?

    • Not discussed

Previous topics

Rest of agenda was not discussed, we keep for next meeting

• Update location-retrieval with add maxSurface management

  • Ready but we will wait before to merge to avoid collision with Meta release patch

• [Retrieval] Unable to build Location object for /retrieve response

  • No further interaction

  • Close?

• Discuss data minimization for geofencing event

  • Following issue camaraproject/Commonalities#295

  • Review status

• Location subscription API

  • discussed:

    • Should be proposed first to API Backlog Working Group

    • Any supporters? As of now no.

  • Move to backlog? on hold?

• Support of Multi-SIM lines in DeviceLocation APIs

  • Derived from camaraproject/Commonalities#302

    • Some new comments but no conclusions 

  • Discussion during previous meeting:

    • The issue has a technical aspect  but it is more important for Product Management.

    • For Location-verification probably we can consider that if any device is in 'the zone' then the result will be true. Perhaps same for geofencing.

    • For location-retrieval the issue is more critical as sending back an array of location is probably not a good solution

    • We need to think about UC in particular as location retrieval is probably used for non-personal device (for sensitive reason) so is there really a requirement for multi-sim for this API?

    • Action for each company to work with product team to refine the requirement

  • QoD has decided to add a mention in description: https://github.com/camaraproject/QualityOnDemand/pull/378

Waiting for commonalities

• Add an “Area” data-type into CAMARA_common.yaml

  • No new comments

  • From previous meeting: 

    • related issue in Commonalities

    • New PR in Commonalities: https://github.com/camaraproject/Commonalities/pull/315

      • Pending to be merged

• Evolution of subscription guidelines that may affect geofencing-subscriptions:

  • Resource-based subscription – GET /subscriptions using a 3-legged access token

  • Resource-based subscription – guidelines for expiration time set by API operator policy

  • Ludovic Robert is working on a global PR for commonalities.

    • Any update?

      • Action: Ludovic Robert will create an issue to discuss data minimization for the geofencing

      • Request to the team to track progress & comment here (WIP) Subscription & events for Commonalities 0.5.0 by bigludo7 · Pull Request #313 · camaraproject/Commonalities (github.com)

Backlog

• API enhancement - Support of landlines

  • This is not a short/medium term requirement for Telefonica - no prioritized for other company.

  • We keep for feature for future consideration

AOB

Action items

Next meeting

Next week on Dec 17th, recovering regular schedule