Device Identifier Meeting Minutes 2024-04-05

Owned by Eric Murray
Last updated: May 03, 2024
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Attendees & Representation

Name

Company

Attendee

Name

Company

Attendee

Eric Murray

Vodafone (moderator)

X

Sachin Kumar

Vodafone

 

Kevin Smith

Vodafone

X

Alex Ferreira

Phronesis

X

Matthew Hornsey

Phronesis

 

Matthew Hand

Phronesis

 

Sébastien Synold

Intersec

 

S, Vigneshwaran

Cognizant

 

Karthik Raj Rethinakumar

Cognizant

 

Manish Jain

Cognizant

 

Huub Appelboom

KPN

 

Rafal Artych

DT

X

Abhisek Das

Infosys

 

Brian Smith

Shabodi

 

Umair Ali Rashid

Shabodi

 

Foo Ming Hui

Singtel

 

Vilim Duganic

Infobip

 

Surajj Jaggernath

Vodacom

X

Walid Trabelsi

Sofrecom (Orange)

 

Agenda

  • Review of previous meeting minutes

    • < APPROVED >

  • Review of Device Identifier API status

  • Discussion on requirements for IMEI Fraud

  • AOB

    • Review of meeting schedule

Review of Device Identifier API status

  • Current "work in progress" version can be found here

PRs

  • New PRs:

    • PR #57: Preparation for v0.1.0 pre-release

      • Proposed changes:

        • Version number changed to 0.1.0

        • URL changed to "{apiRoot}/device-identifier/v0.1.0"

    • Draft release notes can be found here

MEETING UPDATE:

  •  

    •  

      • PR and initial release approved

 

  • Existing PRs:

    • None

  • Closed PRs:

    • None

Issues

  • New Issues

    • None

  • Existing Issues

  •  

    • Issue #21: API Definition Terminology

      • Issue is out of date

ACTIONS:

  •  

    •  

      • Eric to update issue text (still open)

  • Closed Issues

    • None

Discussions

  • New Discussions

    • None

  • Existing Discussions:

    • Discussion #36: Alternative device identifiers

      • An alternative proposal is to salt the IMEI with an API consumer specific salt and then hash it

      • This would a less useful identifier (only useful to the API consumer) but easier to justify providing under an opt-out or no consent basis

      • Use cases for such an alternative identifier are not clear

AGREEMENT: Leave discussion open for now, but prioritise returning IMEI / IMEISV

  • Closed Discussions

    • None

Other Issues

  • Kevin raised the point that YAML schemas should use the common schemas defined in CAMARA_common.yaml where appropriate. Ideally, they could be directly referenced, though this can cause issues with some OAS viewers.

    • ACTION: Kevin to check how OAS viewers handle external references

Discussion on IMEI Fraud API

This API will not be further discussed until API proponents attend the sub-project meetings.

For MTN proposal for the initial YAML, see here

  • See API Proposal submission here

  • Open Discussions:

    • #37: IMEI Fraud API Input

      • Proposal is just to use a single "IMEI" field, which would accept either IMEI or IMEISV

    • #34: What values should the IMEI Fraud API respond with to indicate reported ownership status?

      • The GSMA appear to have an existing Device Check service, which includes an API. How does the CAMARA proposal differ from this?

      • Kevin highlighted a GSMA video on their Device Check service.

AGREEMENT: MTN / Huawei will join sub-project meetings from next year, so can then drive these discussion

AOB

  • Issue #48: Additional sub-project codeowner required

    • UPDATE: No additional codeowner yet identified

  • Next meeting proposed to be held Friday 3rd May 2024 @ 09:00 BST using Zoom

    • Proposal:

      • Change meeting to a fixed time, as participation from North America is limited

      • Change meeting frequency to once per month from May. Proposal is first Friday of each month.

      • Change meeting conference bridge to LF Zoom

    • If agreed in meeting, will be circulated to mailing list first to confirm

    • Meeting agreed to proposal