2024-08-08 API backlog minutes

2024-08-08 API backlog minutes

Attendees



Organization

Name

Orange



Charter Communications

@Christopher Aubut 

CableLabs

@Ben Hepworth 

Telefonica



Vodafone

@Eric Murray @Kevin Smith 

Ericsson

@Thorsten Lohmar @Jan Friman 

AT&T

@Pierre Close 

T-Mobile US



KDDI



Slagen



Nokia



China Telecom



ZTE



KPN



GSMA

@Reg Cox @Mark Cornall 

Centilion



Chunghwa Telecom



Deutsche Telekom

@Noel Wirzius 

MTN

@Krishna Venkatachalam Rachel



Agenda Proposal

  • Antitrust Policy

  • Approval of minutes of last conf. call

  • Recent Updates & Recap

  • Review of Action Points

  • Discussion

  •  

    • OGW Drop #4 APIs:  #35 (5G New Calling), #41 (Telco Scoring), #50 (Device Management), #63 (IMEI Fraud)

    • Other APIs:  #17 (Consent and Measurement),  #23 (Carrier Wholesale Pricing),  #24 (Steering of Roaming Information), #60 (Dedicated Networks), 61 (network Info), 68 (Consent URL), 70 (Quality by Design)

    • Governance: #4 (Structures and roles, RACI, Maintainers initiative)

  • Closing Issues

  •  

    • #20 (Best Interconnection), #22 (Capability and Runtime Restrictions), #19 (Device Quality Indicator), #28 (Device Data Volume), #18 (Receive SMS), #28 (Device Data Volume)



  • AoB

  • Q&A

Antitrust Policy

The project's Antitrust Policy, which you can find linked from the LF and project websites. The policy is important where multiple companies, including potential industry competitors, are participating in meetings. Please review and if you have any questions, please contact your company legal counsel. Members of the LF may contact Andrew Updegrove at the firm Gesmer Updegrove LLP, which provides legal counsel to the LinusFoundation.



 

New Procedures in API Backlog WG meetings

A number of improvements are under discussion with leadership team of OGW project (Henry), CAMARA Project (Markus), Product Definition WS (Helene) and TSC (Herbert). As of today, the WG adopted agreements are three:

  1. To close the agenda SEVEN DAYS BEFORE the conf. call.

    • In case a WG participant wants to include a point in the agenda (e.g., present a new API proposal), this participant shall ensure the corresponding issue is opened in Github by then.

    • Exceptional situations will be treated separately.

  2. New schedule of conf. calls **The meetings are to be held by Linux Foundation (Links available at GitHub and Confluence Backlog front pages)

    • 2nd Thursday of the month (10-11 CET)

    • 4th Thursday of the month (15-16 CET)

  3.  Send agenda to TSC mail list, to encourage more TSC member companies to join the call and provide comments when they identify APIs which are of interest for them. 

Meeting Minutes within Wiki instead of Github

  • CAMARA community agreed that meeting minutes would only be recorded in the wiki

Approval of minutes of last conf. call

  • Minutes of last API backlog WG call available here

    • DECISION: APPROVED

Recent Updates & Recap

TSC meeting 1st August:

  • No new APIs brought to TSC

Other topics

GSMA informed CAMARA Backlog that Open Gateway is considering certain Drop2/3 APIs that have been stuck in Backlog, “at risk”, due to lack of support. What this means is that GSMA is pushing our MNOs to actively reconsider within the next 2 weeks if they can support them. By raising it in the Backlog meeting we increase the chance to find enough support to “reactivate” progress. 

  • Best Interconnect

 For clarity if any API is not a priority for OGW anymore at this point in time, we still expect they can progress independently in CAMARA.



Backlog table

  • Table updated in PR#62 (merged)

Review of Action Points

AP #

AP Owner

AP description

Related issue

Due date

Status

20240523-01

API Backlog Governance

Ricardo to reach up TelecomXchange, Totogi and Netfocusin Technologies to see if the could connect next meetings

23 18 24

23/05/2024

Open

20240523-07

DT

Best interconnection: Review whether there is overlap with EdgeCloud subproject

Meeting Update:

  • No clear overlap with Edge Cloud

  • API anyway to be de-prioritised

  • Action closed

23/05/2024

Completed

20240627-01

China Unicom, KDDI, Vodafone, DT

Check whether Tenure + Shutdown service + Number recycling fit in KYC (parts involved align internally)

Closed for Tenure and Number Recycling (accepted and repo created)

Shutdown Service pending to create repo. Codeowners to be required by email (China Unicom, China Telecom, Huawei) and reported to TSC.

Meeting Update:

  • Shutdown Service API also approved with new repository to be created

  • Codeowners /  Maintainers have been identified

  • Action closed

54 2 34

28/06/2024

Completed

20240627-02

API Backlog Governance

New use cases are usually proposed. Modify the Scope template to show this and approve

28/06/2024

Completed

20240711-01

Netfocusin Technologies

Seek for support/commitment from the partners (technical implementation approach important)

11/07/2024

Open

20240711-02

Telefonica

Provide comments for dedicated network

11/07/2024

Completed

20240711-03

Vodafone

Create the template for network info

11/07/2024

Completed

20240711-04

MTN/Chenosis

IMEI Fraud: Check the material shared by Eric/GSMA regarding DeviceCheck, and validate the inclusion of the API in the Device Identifier group

Meeting Update:

  • IMEI Fraud will offer more information than GSMA Device Check service. MTN and other supporters should meet with GSMA to discuss if proceeding with this API within CAMARA still makes sense. Request for meeting already sent by GSMA.

  • Action to remain open until after meeting with GSMA is held

NOTE: Can be taken to TSC if agreement by end of ThursdayAug 15, 2024

11/07/2024

Open

20240801-01

Deutsche Telekom

Device Quality Indicator: To provide list of Maintainer/Codeowner

Meeting Update:

  • Information provided

  • Action closed

16/08/2024

Completed

20240801-02

Deutsche Telekom

Device Data Volume: To provide list of Maintainer/Codeowner

Meeting Update:

  • Information provided

  • Action closed

16/08/2024

Completed

20240801-03

China Unicom

Shutdown ServiceStatus: To provide list of Maintainer/Codeowner

Meeting Update:

  • Information provided

  • Action closed

16/08/2024

Completed

20240801-04

Vodafone

Scope Enhancement for Network info:

To clarify if new API is proposed  in the Device Status Family or it's an enhancement over an existing API.

To clarify it's relationship with Open Gateway Telco Finder API.

Meeting Update:

  • Kevin opened PR #72 to complement Issue #66. Both still open.

  • Noel commented that this is likely to be accepted

  • New repository is likely to be required

  • Action to stay open until PR#72 is decided

NOTE: Can be taken to TSC if agreement by end of ThursdayAug 15, 2024

08/08/2024

Open

20240801-05

Cablelabs

Quality by Design: Clarification pending on the differences with current Mobile/Fixed QoD and Network info / Quality indicator APis / Connectivity Insights

Meeting Update:

  • Proposal is that QbD be a scope enhancement to Connectivity Insights

  • Will likely require new API, hence new repository required

  • QdD supporters will attend Connectivity Insights meeting next week to finalise proposal

  • Action to stay open until after next Connectivity Insights meeting

NOTE: Can be taken to TSC if agreement by end of ThursdayAug 15, 2024

08/08/2024

Open

Discussion

Current Issues 

17 

Centillion

New Proposal for Authorization for Advertisements, Advertisements Consent, and Measurement
The API template is available in PR#386.

Published new standards, Next meeting (this time) Nick will bring all the documentation and present everything putted together

The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

MEETING UPDATE:

  • Not discussed

4

Governance

Adapt Project StructuresAndRoles.MD to changes in API backlog table (reduction of comments)
The aim is to update the governing document to reflect on the updated changes on API submission pipeline, according to the new structure of the API backlog table.

Ricardo is currently working on modeling a new table

Struggling with the new Table model.

Bring the PRs from the old repo 

Makes sense to bring the table to confluence? 

GitHub seems to be more accesible and is visited by further people (devs. etc.)

The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

MEETING UPDATE:

  • Not discussed

23

TelecomsXChange

New Proposal: Carrier Wholesale Pricing
The API template is available in PR#393

First YAML avaliable here

The issue was not treated in this conference call

The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

ACTION: Ricardo to reach up TelecomXchange to see if the could connect next meetings

MEETING UPDATE:

  • Not discussed

24

Netfocusin Technologies

New Proposal: Steering of Roaming Management
The API template is available in PR#398



Does not seem to be in the Scope of Camara. 

Not an east-west (not between telcos) Already included in 3GPP as technical viable (provided in comment)

The issue is not eligible to be closed yet.

ACTION: Check for support/commitment from the partners (technical implementation approach important)

Meeting Update:

  • No update

35

China Mobile

5G New Calling

The API template is available PR#31

Not treated

Telefonica and Vodafone willing to see the presentation to check whether there is support for this

To be treated in next session (still pending for providing extra info)

Pending to clarify scope with VerifedCaller

MEETING UPDATE:

  • Not discussed

41

Telefonica

New API Proposal: Telco Scoring

The API template is available #42

Input from OGW Drop 4

Presented slides: API-Overview-TelcoScore.pptx

The API seems to not fit within KYC and new sg should be created. Support is required, feel free

Scoring can be calculated both with any user registered in the telco. Less information means less scoring, Algorithm may be different for each of the implementators (MNO)

ACTION: Toshi validate if This APImay fit within KYC API familiy → The issue was rised but still under discussion 

→(Toshi's proposal 20240627) In API Backlog 20240613 meeting, Jorge TEF and Toshi KDDI agreed that the API does not fit within the existing KYC-SP.  Then, in KYC-SP 20240625 meeting, that was shared within KYC-SP and there was no objection.  Closed.

Pending meeting with DT to seek for support.

ACTION Noel to come back to TEF

MEETING UPDATE:

  • Not discussed

50

Verizon

Device Management

The API template is available #30